Thread regarding University of Phoenix layoffs

They are all the same. It is the student and what they put into it, not just the institution. Many college grads can't find jobs

The middle class in america is gone because all the middle class jobs are gone too. Keep buying your Toyota's and all your other imports - what you get is a job at 7/11 or some other retail store. Also, what most people do not realize is that ALL colleges/universities have a profit motive. The only real difference between the nonprofit and for-profit sectors is that one pays taxes back into the community, while the other does not. For-profit universities also have to be accountable for how they spend their money; while public universities collect taxpayer dollars and spend them however they like- with zero accountability.

E. Gordon Gee, the President of NON-PROFIT Ohio State University made $6

million in 2013. Too bad these ultra-liberal Gainful Employment regulations

don't focus on non-profits as well. Too bad those regulations are just political. And too bad the liberal media believes more in advocacy journalism than writing a fair and balanced story for once.

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I'm sorry you wear blinders and shill for a crappy industry. No matter how loud you squeal, it won't change the for-profit record. You, and the many hucksters in this industry, are in for an awakening in the coming months. For- profits offer a poor product as evidenced by the idiots who 'graduate' your celebrated schools. Keep pulling the franks and rubbing the nubs of the charlatans who employ you in Phoenix. The real education community know the sham being perpetrated, and now the wider community is finding out about the boiler rooms you champion. It's going to be fun to watch them all topple in on themselves over the next few years. I'm sorry you are do inadequate that you have to shill for a fraudulent industry. It must suck being a worthless for- profit dipshiite.

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Protect the taxpayer? OK. Stop funded state universities to the tune of 6,000/yr per student. Every state school student costs the taxpayer an average of 6K/yr - BEFORE considering student loans. Then add to that amount the annual costs of default/subsidy.

Yes, the default rate for for-profit school students is nearly twice as high (basically 1-in-5 vs. 1-in-10 as reported by DoE: http://www2.ed.gov/offices/OSFAP/defaultmanagement/schooltyperates.pdf). So, which one do you think is a bigger burden on taxpayers?

There are a lot of good reasons to criticize for-profit education, but way too many sheeple out there clinging to politically convenient soundbites and partial information that make a good 20/20 or 48 Hours "investigative" report.

Whether or not for-profit schools are good/evil is a far more complex question that requires a bit more abstract thought... but maybe it's better to compensate our personal inadequacies with an adopted and false sense of righteous indignation (shout out to Camden Kid!) or sooth the burn against an employer who clearly thought less of us than we think of ourselves.

Maybe we just all need to feel "right". Sense of self-righteousness. It's almost as important as food. We all gotta have it, and we're happy to adopt a cause with the weakest of reasoning in order for us to feed that hunger.

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You know not of what you speak. For-profit schools have an abysmal graduation rate, loan default rate, and job placement rate. No, it's time the taxpayer is protected. San Diego management press enrollment advisors to enroll ANYONE, even people incapable of doing the most basic college work.Stop shilling for a failed business model. For-profits are perpetuating a scam and it's time the taxpayer reined in the gross abuses of these huckster schools.

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