Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

@ 9lzh+1ipnJ1As, I totally agree. I found myself constantly interrupted by people wanting to chit chat and get in the way of me getting my work done

All the walk up wasted interruptions, many which aren't work related or people just babbling on and on about nothing, people talking in hallways about non work related things, etc. And all the time still charging time because they call it "meeting to discuss technical things" and their managers are clueless

To Terminate with Severance or without Severance after Sept 19, that is the question……

@6zmu
Before you stay on your high horse too much not everyone is under WFH exemption from their doctors. Yes, for those situations the reasons are or should be private.
But, and this is happening on my team, one could have an exemption because of a condition but goes camping with groups every other weekend. That alone isn't bad but they start early and "work" using their cell at as Hotspot.
Wanna know how long I have to wait for answers? So for every valid exemption I can come with multiple examples of abuse. One person admitted that they bought a mechanical mouse mover.

So can WFH have a negative impact on MY job? Absolutely.

Are their folks that do a great job WFH?
Absolutely.

But I am seeing more abuses so the reins will be tightened.

@3vfa+1ipnJ1As

It's absolutely none of your business why people have work from home exemptions. That's between the worker, their doctor, and Honeywell. All of which you are NOT. Honeywell, just like every other company in the U.S., is required to abide by the Americans with Disabilities Act. When somebody dies and makes you emperor of the universe, your opinion on the topic MIGHT be worth a sh1t. Until then, pi$$ off!!

@5tve+1ipnJ1As May I please ask..,how is it “burdensome” to you to have some workers remote? I’m actually sincerely curious how that could possibly be true. I have worked for years with coworkers who work remote in other states or countries and we have always had excellent communication and collaboration with them. My mentor who trained me for years worked from home remote in another state and I learned an immense amount of knowledge from them until they were laid off when it was decided no one could WFH. We lost so much knowledge when they decided that. I have no idea how it could possibly be a burden to anyone unless you don’t know how to use simple communication tools to call people up and schedule meetings, desk share etc. It is much more of a burden losing the experience and talent we continue to bleed out.

About dang time. as someone whos in office 5 days a week, doing my engineering work, its burdensome that people at home get to stay there and bark.

@2vhi+1ipnJ1As

At home or in the office, Honeywell is working hard to outsource your job to "low cost geographies", aka foreign pestholes. It's how DA and his clowns afford $500 for a bottle of wine. The people at outsourced locations are not any smarter, they don't work any harder, they just have a culture of conforming to foolish and antiquated ideas of productivity and accountability. Time to work smarter and realize the additional profit and productivity that comes from remote work because overhead costs go way down. It's also a great way to attract and retain top talent. Stop with the early 20th century relic of the workplace and get on board with reality of the 21st century.

stupid & backward thinking -
just like you'd expect really

I can attest to the slacker sat their cubes doing nothing but playing on their phones at CLW. Many of us don’t need VPN all day to do our jobs. They’re going to be very adamant about this. There will be very few “exceptions”.
For those calling WFH lazy, I can assure you not all of any group is always what you think they are. Good and bad in all types of settings. For me, I worked a lot more than I ever have at home. Nights. Weekends. Gave my personal cell and gave time that I should have given to my family to be there for the company.
I’ve heard this goes all the way to DA. He wants us all back under the roof so they can prove to the govt we all exist and are working on their sh*t. It is what it is. My needs have changed since I started here. I’ll be one departing. I’m not mad or upset. I’m calm and cool and collected. We knew this would never be permanent.

Hey guess what?! People can and do slack just as much sitting in your precious fabric covered “productivity” boxes in an asbestos contaminated filthy office without any windows or natural light as they can at home. Some people are way more productive in their homes. I mean how old do you have to be to think you need to sit in a little desk in a cubicle in order to feel productive? Hahahahaha

All the wfh garners less productivity. I see my neighbor do but 5-6 hours of work per day. If called out he’ll try finding a job that requires less productivity. If salaries and not puking in a good 9+ productive hits then you are just plain lazy or need more work…too much whining.

Ultimately they can do whatever they want. This all happened pre-covid. My site included govt cost plus work, so they required time cards for all, including exempt. I filled one out every single day for nearly 20 years. The rationalization was they don't pay you based on the timecard, they only use it for required project cost reporting, so they were able to get away with it. For years, we were only required to badge in. Then, they required badge out also, for "our safety". Then, they banned WFH. Then, if they suspected you were maybe leaving a little early. they would "pull the gate" and compare to your time card. Then, they started walking people out for "mis-charging". So it was an evolution, but believe me it can happen.

Duh... everybody vpn all the time.

Supposedly they are checking if your laptop is on the internal network vs. you're vpn'ed in.

We were sternly warned that if anyone abused the 3-2 wfh schedule they would go back to a full 5 day in-office schedule. But my office is definitely not following the rules.

@2wyv

Politicizing who wants to go back to the office vs. WFH, or who wants everyone v@xxed is so last year. People have their reasons for their preferences and they do NOT necessarily follow party lines. SMH at the narrow-mindedness.

Really tough to force timecarding on exempt employees. If you treat them like hourly you have to pay hourly.

I work at a site with only one other team member and we barely chat in person. Pointless for me to be in office and my home setup is much nicer. I did the same job as a contractor from home for many years. My role is completely online and also requires a ton of after hours so the typical shift doesn't make sense for us.

So can they actually tell if you leave at lunch to work from home? Is anyone aware of how accurately they are actually tracking attendance? My team got called out once or twice from working from home too much... but it was weeks, if not months, of absence before they said anything. How would HR determine between approved time off, sick leave for self or kids, etc and working from home?

I'm immune compromised. Even before covid during the winter flu season I used to get stressed out about people coming to the office sick. I need to work to pay bills and have insurance. I've been extra careful since covid. I have actually not even had it yet. I had one vaccine to keep my job but no boosters since I don't hold immunity. I really enjoyed working from home. It was nice not having to worry about the guy sitting behind me coughing all over. With my role even when I was in the office I spent the entire day on Skype/teams calls. Nothing I work on is at my site. Guess I'll have to get used to getting sick again. Good thing I built up a decent amount of sick leave since I haven't missed a day of work sick in over 2 years.

Its not just trumpers that think you need to follow the 3-2 office schedule like the rest of us.

Most people with exemptions have it for BS reasons. Do you go to the grocery store or ever leave you home? Until HON comes up with a true WFH policy you can come to work like the rest of us. No you're not special.

The few that are truly immunocompromised will get screwed.

All the ignorant trumpturds saying hey back to office and that they want to be there. Likely to waste time bs'ing in hallways while charging time, long 2 hr lunches charging time, and basically wasting far more time.

Also those same mo--ns aren't even going to site as the leadership metric pull of badging in was enough to direct directors to talk to each one.

No one's going on 5 days a week, not even the mo--n anti vaxxers and anti maskers.

They're the ones wasting the most time and fraudulently filling time out.

@2vhi,

Sorry, but some of us have jobs that can’t be off shored.

I left hon last year for a FT remote position that pays more and none of the toxic hon bs.

Maybe if you concentrate on bettering yourself instead of wasting energy being jealous and resentful, you too can one day have a great remote job outside of hon too.

Honeywell is NOT enron. Those people were waaay smater than anyone at honeywell.

If you can work from home in your pajamas then you are replaceable by someone in India who is smarter, harder working, and willing to show up to an office and be held accountable for their work. Time to put on your big boy pants and get into the office with the rest of us.

CNBC: Google employees frustrated after office Covid outbreaks, some call to modify vaccine policy

• Google employees say they’ve been receiving a deluge of Covid exposure notifications since being asked to return to offices.
• Employees are reacting with memes that contrast the difference between the excitement of management bringing employees back to offices and the concern of seeing regular exposure notifications.
• A group of workers is asking the company to drop its vaccine mandate, arguing that they are still banned from in-person meetings while Covid cases occur regularly in offices with fully vaccinated employees.

Other companies that once mandated Covid vaccination requirements have since dropped them, including Boeing, Intel, and United Airlines, citing a federal court’s decision to prohibit enforcement of the federal contractor executive order that required vaccination of large employers that are also government contractors.

Classic move by this dumpster fire of a company, reqs are probably on hold already and this is another ploy to have people leave without paying severance before the layoffs come, stay tuned folks

Don’t see any email yet, is it targeted at certain departments?

Heard badging in isn't going to be reported regularly. Probably getting a lot of resistance. And managers have been allowing employees to WFH more than 2 days a week. Some just tell their reports to badge in once every couple of weeks.

Early retirement. Pressing the Resign button in sept 18th in HR direct. Zero warning. Bye.

Employees are now being "counseled" for not badging in. You can't make this $hi! up.

Say hello to Lumbergh for me!

@jrc...
Why do you feel sorry? Half the posters here are so sure that vaccines are useless so they probably think it best to get covid and just deal with it.

Will Honeyhell follow suit on a related workplace subject?

The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday upheld an injunction against Biden’s Covid vaccine mandate for federal contractors.

Until the rona-notices are at zero for 30 days, I'm surprised this is happening...wait...no...no I'm not surprised. Predictable. 9/80 looking more and more interesting.

Hey, I heard someone in upper management boasting that "97%" of HON is jabbed.

How could any workspace be "incubating Covid" when Fauci & Joe are on video stating that you couldn't catch it if you were jabbed 2x, then 3x, and now 4x?

Maybe, "the science", and the midterm elections coming up, are why the CDC recently rescinded most of their jab & masking guidance that HON used to coerce the 97% into taking the experimental jabs.

Now, get your sorry ar$es back into the office with the rest of us "essentials" or move on to a company that hires the dress-casual pajama & bunny slippers crowd.

I'm shocked we recruit any college talent given the HON representatives we use to recruit. At the last ASU recruitment, we were represented by two of the most unprofessional, unqualified women in the AERO ISC. It's embarrassing for the hard working women trying to make things happen.
Oh, and sharing work spaces, not enough parking, and no work privacy are almost as bad as our recruiters.

Just drive over to the other companies who allow remote work. Simple

My issue with this is people who are high risk, immuno-compromised etc. for who vaccinations do not work are now being forced back into semi (with 3/2) crowded and dangerous for them situations. I mean CLW has been basically incubating Covid. Ironically shortly after getting the HR notification a site notice came out that 4 cases, all with close contacts were reported. And yea, i am sure there are wfh abusers but lets face it those same folks are massive slackers in the office too. I feel bad for folks who have a legit medical reason for avoiding crowds.

Is this for the exemption and not the 3/2? I tell you that over 1/2 of our staff has not been in the office more than 1 day since April 2020. That is a fact.

I’m all for the 3/2 for non touch employees, but not for the ones who have been WFH 100%. Much abuse going on…

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