I really don’t know how much longer I can put up with this. Looking but the job market is so bad right now. I can barely bring myself to the door to badge in. I can’t believe I actually used to like working here and felt energized by the work. This place has gotten so bad. Like trying to figure out if I can get some sort of disability claim and try to survive on that level if bad. Anyone have any suggestions on just making through the day?
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There is no help on this one the way you want it. What you are asking is "How do I stay in an abusive relationship and make it better?" Don't stay in a relationship with someone who is abusive to you. Abusers never change for the better - they only get worse.
Yes the job market is and will remain bad, but if it is your mental health or a job -- pick the mental health. Your mental health is worth downsizing your home or car and taking a job that pays less or having to work more hours.
@d6 These people work for the company or a TPSP they pay. Do you really think they truly care about you or your best interests?
I went to an EAP therapist. After a couple months of beating around the bush and trying everything we reached the inescapable conclusion that there wasn’t really any solution but leaving the company. She said she had several other WF employees in the same boat.
@d2 The keyword here is "quiet." Sometimes news articles about quiet quitting (which are mostly written as ragebait for c-suite types), confuse assertive boundary setting with actual quiet quitting. If you're directly telling people you can't take a task on, that something's outside your job description, or asking your manager to prioritize their asks when they're trying to pile too much on, that's not quiet quitting. That's just setting boundaries. Actual quiet quitting is mentally checking out while maintaining an outward appearance of being helpful. Meaning like:
- Not volunteering for extra tasks
- Joining meetings without participating or paying attention. Maybe making one well timed comment so your disengagement isn't as noticeable
- Losing interest in improving performance and showing initiative, and just sticking to what you were hired for
- Delaying responses rather than replying right away. Delaying turning an assignment in just because you finished it quickly
- Quietly leaving every day at the end of your shift, regardless of what's piled up (versus telling your manager things are piled up and asking them to prioritize)
If you're doing it right, you should just look like a mediocre employee, not one that's actively hard for a manager to deal with.
I feel this way sometimes. Then I look at the severance plan, smile, and go back to work, knowing that Shart will pay me to leave. I'm not leaving without it.
@d2 Why? Know many people who've done that for years and most got the severance too.
I advise against quiet quitting in this environment
Play some skynyrd
I've posted this on prior topics about burnout, but the biggest thing that made a difference to me was having a financial cushion. I realize this is way easier said than done, obviously. But there's a huge emotional toll associated with having so much uncertainty surrounding the thing you're depending on for survival. If you have enough cushion where a layoff is going to be something to be dealt with, but not immediate devastation, it really hits the mute button on how much work stress affects you.
For me personally, I came into a small inheritance that, combined with my existing savings, gave me a 2 year runway if I get laid off. Because the change in my finances was so sudden, I could more easily see the immediate change in my emotional outlook and how I responded to work stress.
Getting therapy is good. Quiet quitting and drawing healthy boundaries on work is good. Taking time off is good. But none of these solve the root of the problem, that your survival is dependent on the benevolence of an executive team that's offering zero stability to workers. The more financial cushion you can give yourself that isn't tied to Wells Fargo, the more room you'll have to breathe.
Like I said, I know this is way easier said than done, and my example of lucking into an inheritance isn't replicable. But even before that happened I was on a path to build up a pretty big cushion. Do what you gotta do. The old advice of a 3-6 month emergency fund is outdated given the current job market.
@ck if you don't like the posts on here why don't you grow a pair and F off and leave. The rest if us who have been dirty by wells fargo will continue to vent
I agree with the response about EAP therapist. The environment at WF has caused anxiety had not experienced before
@OP
Suggestions?
Yeah, Stop posting your cr8p on here.
- Nobody cares or wants to hear you complain.
- Stop thinking of trying to rip off disability if you not truely deserve it.
Why don't you do the simple and right thing. Stand in front of a mirror and kick yourself in the junk to square yourself up. That will solve 95% of your problem.
If your manager gives you any grief about taking FMLA, document it and file a complaint with the Dept of Labor. Any retaliation is illegal.
Use the EAP to get some therapy sessions, especially if you need to keep working at WF until you get another job. I took FMLA and my manager was a real je-k about it and made me regret taking it. When I returned from FMLA I was relentlessly harassed for leaving my team short staffed. My EAP therapist was really was helpful. You have to protect your mental health so you are healthy enough to find another job.
It takes great effort to find a good therapist. And a long time.
And a bad one will make you feel even worse.
I suggest you talk to ChatGPT for your mental health.
Employee assistance therapy, you can have at most six.
Depend on your current insurance plan, It could be totally Free.
Have your manager done something Unfair to you? Document it And create an er case For the record.
Do your job normally, But not Working hard Beyond the normal level. Continue to look for jobs.
If you still have Pto days, Use it half day Or one day every week.
I left 5 years ago because of the non-stop layoffs. It's sad to see it is still happening.
Take FMLA leave.
The Job Market 'Dungeon':
You are absolutely right—certain sections of the job market are brutal right now. It feels like a completely new dungeon has been rolled out, but many of us are still holding onto the old playbook to try and navigate it. The old strategies might not work, and adapting to this market takes an exhausting amount of extra energy that you just don't have right now.
The Severance vs. Mental Health Gamble: Waiting out a severance package is a common strategy when trying to survive a toxic or draining corporate environment. However, our healthcare and mental health support systems are incredibly broken. If you go this route, you have to realistically ask yourself: Will a standard severance package actually cover the cost of the counseling and recovery time needed to heal from this level of burnout? Sometimes the financial buffer isn't enough to offset the toll on your well-being.
Surviving Day-to-Day:
If your immediate goal is just making it through the door tomorrow, try to ruthlessly practice "quiet quitting" or extreme boundary setting. Do the bare minimum required to not get fired. Protect your remaining energy like it's gold. Look into your company's EAP (Employee Assistance Program) for immediate, free counseling sessions if they offer them, or look into short-term disability options under FMLA if a doctor can sign off on severe burnout/anxiety.
Hang in there. You aren't alone in feeling this way, and recognizing that the system is broken is the first step in protecting yourself from letting it break you.
@OP You are not alone. This is exactly what they want. Make the work/environment so unbearable that you quit without paying you severance. Don’t let them win. That should be your motivation. Meanwhile take sick hours to see counseling. It helps to talk to a professional. Nothing to lose. Best of luck!