Thread regarding SAP layoffs

New tactic for laying off employees

So there is a new tactic that everyone should know about. Since performance management was released, managers have been in touch with HR to understand how they can give more money to their reports that are their friends or family. And the only solution from HR is this -> employees that are seen as critical to business needs and have a legal offer letter from another company will get a salary hike above the normal SAP limitations to match their offer.

So basically, if you have a friend who has a company, ask them to create an AI-related job for you and make you and offer - it has to be a written offer and cannot be just an email or verbal confirmation. And then your managers starts the process by creating an HR ticket and getting an exception for you and increasing your salary.

But the caveat is this - HR has been asked to reject as many of these as possible.

For a handful of roles where a manager is well connected within SAP, they will get HR to approve this and give 10% or more salary hikes. For almost all other roles, they will decline and then HR will flag that you are not committed to working at SAP and find ways to get rid of your role.

So if your area executive or T5 manager of managers or your T4/T5 manager is asking you to find a good role and get an offer and use it to increase your salary, DO NOT DO THAT. A lot of area executives are peddling this as an idea to work around performance management limitations. It is a farce.

This only works if that manager has already made a deal with HR. Otherwise you will not get an increased salary but be asked to join that other job. HR is doing this to easily identify people who can be laid off without a severance. They are also using sick leave and AI usage data to decide who should be put on a performance improvement plan and laid off subsequently.

Be careful of the sneaky HR and area executives and managers.


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Post ID: @OP+1ky2em16r

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@bz and HR had been helping him as a watch dog... Every sabbatical you can see ~half members are HR, why they have so much time?

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Post ID: @gj+1ky2em16r

@ec You are so right. This is the one lesson everyone at SAP should take to heart - if you want job security you need to flatter your manager as much as humanly possible, then flatter them even more. It is proven strategy time and again. Most of the people I know who were made redundant on the flimsiest of "reasons" did not flatter their manager and even gave them bad survey results. Remember at all time - flatter and s*ck up to your manager, and do not respond to surveys unless you are prepared to lie.

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Post ID: @eh+1ky2em16r

@a5 I think its all about giving more levers to managers so they can get the necessary ammunition to fire at will. A manager decides if their report should use more AI or less. Managers at SAP have far more power over your career than in most other companies. So make sure to su-k up to your manager this layoff season or find another job. At SAP, there is no middle ground.

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Post ID: @ec+1ky2em16r

Never, ever trust HR.

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Post ID: @dz+1ky2em16r

HR has been making negative effort to this company

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Post ID: @bz+1ky2em16r

@a5 if you want a quick solution to AI monitoring just chose the most expensive model (fable 5 Or opus 4.8), upload a big file and asking one question should be enough to reach you quota of the day 😂

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Post ID: @ar+1ky2em16r

@OP from what you've written, it seems HR wants to reduce the salary increments and bonuses so people will quit without severance. They're definitely trying to make the culture more toxic than it already is.

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Post ID: @ab+1ky2em16r

It’s a whole mess and a toxic environment tbh. when you say they’re monitoring AI usage to decide who should be on performance management plans ..what do you mean? it seems encouraged to use these tools but yet limitations will be placed on use because they’re realizing the high cost … so not clear.

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