With the sale of Fiber and Small Cells, this means a massive amount of personnel will lose their jobs. This will include Fiber and Small cell area directors, market managers, project managers, construction personnel, outage and issue personnel, local market inventory and parts personnel including office and equipment buildings, government relations personnel, fiber sales, permitting personnel, NOC personnel, etc. to name a few. The cuts will be deep! Prayers to all affected!
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@ab+1jpg6gr6a CCF stopped existing in 2020
A separate part of EQT. Not the Zayo ownership part. Bought the towers. Zayo and a separate EQT will own the 90,000 miles of fiber. There's some agreement in place where Zayo will get first crack at any new business to tower for a certain period of time. Then ends.
The fun is just beginning. If you think the past 18 months was bad, wait until you see the next year of our truly horrible leadership team making self serving decisions as they fight for roles in one of the 3 companies in play. Only the fortunate will get an early severance package.
@c7+1jpg6gr6a clearly on the tower side has no idea what they are talking about when it comes to fiber. To say vendors only need basic verification from the NOC shows that. Have you ever been in a splice case? No. Have you ever designed a Route? No. Do you know what an OTDR is? Do you know what a filter does. You sound slow.
In all reality, things will continue BAU until after the sale closes in 2026. Likely, very few people will be offered early severance other than upper management who will be offered severance with contingency to stay on as an advisor for a period. The remainder of employees will be told they will receive an offer letter from Zayo if their position is to be retained. Others will be let go. Some will retain their jobs for a set period during the transition and will be aware of their end date. Probably a year or so after that there will be another set of layoffs for redundancies Zayo identifies.
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A 2 year old can play connect the dots. That's basically CCF's understanding of engineering. That whole department has been long overdue a hatchet job.
And CCF has a bad habit of hiring incompetent vendors. In the vast majority of the telecom world, vendors don't need "help" other than some basic verification with the NOC. Between the terrible engineering and bad vendors, it makes things a lot more complicated than it needs to be. That's why the MTTR has always been abysmal for fiber issues.
Prior to fiber Crown, the tower company, had 1000 employees. You can do the math. Purple shoes be walkin.
No one will work for Zayo or EQT until after the close of the sale. No jobs will be offshore until than. In the meantime we just have to worry about layoffs which I think will be minimal for now. The big one will come before Q4 is over.
How long after said acquisitions did it take for Zayo to move job offshore?
I can see zayo using the same vendors ccf did for greenfield. Does not mean they won’t off shore network operations and engineering like they did with allstream in canada
What about capital work, new builds, greenfield
What will happen to the vendors that work for crown?
I checked the Zayo board on here and it’s reported that after Zayo acquired Allstream (the Canada-based fiber network), they laid off the Allstream engineers to offshored their break fix work to the Philippines.
@aw+1jpg6gr6a yes unlike crown, zayo has fiber outside of the US, so they are more likely to offshore certain roles to save money.
They have a history of offshoring outside of the US.
So you’re telling me that people in the Philippines design routes and help vendors out while splicing?
What is being said in these last few comments…people drinking this fine Sunday night
Someone dislikes it instead of giving anybody for the fella or woman
And I get laid off or not**
So if small cell was sold to EQT and EQT owns part of Zayo, and everybody speculates fiber will get laid off, will small cell folks also or now because Zayo won’t be part of small cell. That whole part confuses me. Someone please explain.
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Zayo has a tendency to offshore/outsource to contractors for engineering roles. Design and break fix is mostly contractors. A few years ago Zayo laid off their in-house staff and switched to cheaper overseas contractors to operate their NOC.
You can check the “Zayo Group Holdings, Inc” section of this site for more insight into their offshoring of roles.
What about engineers for the areas Zayo doesn’t cover?
Now is the perfect time for them to give us the “Voluntary Separation” option with severance pay.
How fast though is the question. Will we last until the close at least?
@ac+1jpg6gr6a, I found out about the June layoff a week before it happened because of this website. Someone warned us on here about it. You can go back to posts from June 2024 and you’ll see it.
You can “guess” all you want but the truth is there is too much uncertainty about our job security with this sale.
One thing I know is that no one has said a single correct thing on this site. My guess is a lot of people will keep their jobs since the collective here thinks the opposite
How is CCF morale currently? We still need to be productive despite the situation.
Does CL have to wear orange pumas now instead of purple pumas?
Someone please advise.
No sh-t, Sherlock!