Really sad we are not really doing anything about the survey results. Just a game of telephone with GMs hoping that things will just magically get better.
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I am hearing that one thing that senior "leadership" didn't take into consideration with RTO presence reporting was the increase in sustaining hours due to everyone tracking every attendance exception in INFOR. One hour doctor appointment, one hour INFOR exception time, etc etc. These have added up, everyone taking the same appointments they've always had to take, but coding each and every 15 minute block to top up the day to 8 hours for presence reports that are inaccurate anyway. So. Much. Winning.
"Assigned seats don’t make sense."
Assigned seating makes perfect sense when you are trying to promote spontaneous collaboration, and you actually give a sh!+ about your employees. If you don't give a sh!+ about your employees then you don't have assigned seating and you don't have enough seats for your employees. Your employees have to sit in the hallways like they are doing in Alpharetta.
@hw Open plan seating is the most despised, least collaborative arrangement. Research has shown this. So again this is all about getting rid of people. Don’t know why this is so hard for people to understand.
"Open seating allows for the maximum number of people to work in the office."
The problem is that the metrics used to determine the number of seats needed was done in 2018 when ATT a hybrid company, with many employees working virtual. Jeremy Legg even referenced this data point in his town hall.
Assigned seats don’t make sense. An employee taking vacation or out on medical leave equates to lost space. Open seating allows for the maximum number of people to work in the office.
What really pi---s me off with this 5 days it not having an assigned seat
So true. They care more about the furniture than the employee that sits in it. How much they must have spent gutting buildings to cram people only to make them miserable and not give a sh*t.
I understand we should try and promote att products but every family and friend I advised they should stay away informed me they wished they had listened.
It’s sad I feel such but after the toxic takeover of BellSouth and amount of not caring due to lack of competence and fraud we see makes me wonder why we don’t have more class action lawsuits.
“I can pretty much forgive anything but not this kind of betrayal, this is inhumane. Ive already hauled everyone i know to switch to whatever f--king services but T, ive convinced plenty, possibly like 20 accounts or more. I have big family and extended families.”
This right here is what every single one of you should do. I’ve personally switched 4 families equalling 12 cell lines and 4 finer lines to TMob. Still pushing for 2 to dump HBO maxipad.
I can’t claim how many families I deterred from this clown show bit I did my best as an employee to recommend not going with us. Yes being an employee telling others not to use us does carry clout. POS treatment gets the same in return.
The really sad thing is, the mo--ns would win back SO much good will if they just said "We hear you. If your job does not require work in the office, we are going back to three days a week."
No dipwad. The really sad thing is that sad sacks like you would allow them the cr-p and wee on top of your head for the last 2 years and forget the whole thing just because the come out with an email dialing back RTO. You are the exact mo--n that they know is working here. You will let them tear down the employee base for their own greed and their culture makeover, walking everyone ruthlessly out the door and then go back to boot licking John and Jeremy just because they are finished fing you over. Pathetic.
@eg I shouldn’t be surprised but how the f_ck could they not expect the results if you what are saying is true (I responded basically how you laid out)?
If they really expected people to be ok with RTO they really need their heads examined because their grip on reality is pretty darn tenuous. And it isn’t going away.
We’re reminded of how stupid and pointless this is every day we schlep to these offices to do work that can be done from anywhere and we’re doubly reminded of it every week with the broken presence reports.
They can gaslight us to eternity, but i know my reality. I have to come 5 days a week with no godda-n seats! Fu-k the leadership and their corner brewed office. Even the most evil person I know offered me something, this leadership is beyond evil.
This morning its 100F outside and i feel sorry for people who have to carry 3 to 4 bags hauling their sh-t because of seat hunger games. I tell myself, fu-k everyone who made this happen.
Everyone I know gave good reviews to their direct management and poor reviews to leadership citing RTO related complains. Also heard this morning that leadership is not happy with the results and trying to find a way to sweep RTO under the rug.
Seems like we may never see these results either.
@e0 I’m not shocked at all. I personally gave my boss excellent feedback, but very negative feedback for C-level leadership. I’ve heard the same from many other people.
The word I got is that the survey results showed good feedback for the immediate supervisor teams and very poor feedback on T leadership with lots of negative feedback on RTO. So who knows if they'll ever admit anything or say anything about it, but what I was told is that leadership is pi---d and trying to figure out how to proceed based on this.
So....JOB WELL DONE on the consistent message that leadership su-ks a-s! Whether they actually try and change anything is unknown (and not likely) but at least we pi---d in their lemonade.
Survey not released yet, I’m pretty sure they didn’t like the results and these won’t get released either.
“Ive already hauled everyone i know to switch to whatever f--king services but T, ive convinced plenty, possibly like 20 accounts or more.”
LOL!
Well today is the 30th. Where’s the results?
“If the report don't show 8 hours she wants a word doc report explaining why their report is broken. ”
She’s probably far more “qualified” to turn tr1cks than ‘managing’ anyone or anything.
What really pi---s me off with this 5 days it not having an assigned seat!!!!! For me, that is insanity and ive worked in a 3rd world sweatshop and i had a f--king seat. What this garbage leadership is doing is blatant disrespect. Even if they f--king go back to hybrid, im still gonna be out looking, i can pretty much forgive anything but not this kind of betrayal, this is inhumane. Ive already hauled everyone i know to switch to whatever f--king services but T, ive convinced plenty, possibly like 20 accounts or more. I have big family and extended families.
It's not going to go back to a more sensible time, that's why management is saying su-k it up. Our DEI micromanager out of Alpharetta has started sending out notification that they are now looking for a minimum of 8 hours in office, and to be fully available after hours as an on call. If the report don't show 8 hours she wants a word doc report explaining why their report is broken. Our unit has made it clear that we need to keep our resumes up to date and that at any time we could get hit with layoffs again. Rumor is that they will start back up with layoffs at the start of the year so they can see the most return on the reports.
@aw it’s clear they are delusional if they think they can put the genie back in the bottle by just saying su-k it up.
They torched the culture by disrespecting people’s time, took our money with commute expenses so that we can sit in conference call and the like and betrayed trust with the presence reporting and all the other lies and BS. Like others have said, going back to hybrid would earn a lot of goodwill and instantly boost morale, but they are too stubborn and d_mb to do it.
I doubt these leaders give a damn but no one I speak to 1-on-1 is happy. They are pi$$ed as f_ck about the way things are and if they aren’t actively looking, they are disengaged.
If they are going to ignore the sh!tstorm they caused, “leadership” need to at least stop these pointless surveys. It only makes them look worse. No one gives a sh!t about their other stupid pet projects because they have shown how little they value us.
I’ve been told by a trusted source that any feedback related to RTO is unlikely to be considered seriously. In essence, the message being conveyed—albeit in a more polished way—is that the decision has already been made, and if you want to keep your job, showing up all five days is expected.
Anything related to RTO tends to get brushed aside, with the focus usually shifting to how being in the office supports culture. I’m completely fine with being in the office regularly—just like it used to be—but it would be helpful to bring back some of the flexibility we once had. If someone needs to step out for a couple of hours to take care of something urgent, it shouldn’t become a discussion about coding hours, badge swipes, or dashboards. I’d prefer not to block off two hours just to go to a doctor’s appointment in Fort Worth and then drive back to Dallas. On days like that, it’s much more efficient to just head home afterward and work without added stress or logistics.
"And people would be HAPPY to come in three days and productivity actually would go up."
It's amazing how much this would change things, but we all know it's DOA. Not going to happen. However, 4th and 5th floors will fixate on how to cut, cut, cut vs. hey, TMO just kicked our a-s for like the 40th quarter in a row. Cable MVNOs are actually starting to work and gaining volume. Nope. I want to know who showed up at 8 and who left at 5. I also don't care about my son's baseball game. I've got another powerpoint deck to populate to get ripped apart in future meeting. #killme
We're literally the Dallas Cowboys of telecom industry. We won everything 3 decades ago, remember?? Love me!
Let me know if I got all this right, HR?
"I also heard they plan to throw out any RTO related complaints."
The really sad thing is, the mo--ns would win back SO much good will if they just said "We hear you. If your job does not require work in the office, we are going back to three days a week." And people would be HAPPY to come in three days and productivity actually would go up. But they're too damned stubborn and too stupid to ever do that.
"Leadership is scrambling trying to come up with the best way to spin the results in a positive way. "
I don't know why. They have had no problem outright lying up to now, so I don't see why they don just truncate the table and remove every response below their desired rosy PR data point and go with that.
The beatings will continue until morale [and survey results] improve
Leadership is scrambling trying to come up with the best way to spin the results in a positive way. As you can imagine, that’s going to be really tuff with the widespread negative feedback. I also heard they plan to throw out any RTO related complaints.
Just remember, you aren’t seen, you aren’t heard, you aren’t valued. This will NOT be a good place to work without major changes at the top which aren’t coming soon. This company is circling the drain.
Still haven’t been shared in our org that I’ve heard. I’m sure the results are really bad.
Anything RTO related won’t be addressed
It’s sick and f-d up that they ignore the real results
Yeah. Our supervisor basically told us the top priorities and not really results.