Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

How Can I Survive This?

Yesterday JG of TPS stated that only the most qualified people will be selected for jobs. I have 11 years with the company. How can I compete with someone at my same grade level that has 20 to 35 years experience? I see no way for me to survive this unless they make some exceptions for younger people.

We just had our first child, we have no support force because we moved for Chevron, we lost our first house during Harvey, we live in a one bedroom garage apartment from a co-worker and we are just mentally destroyed. My wife can't sleep. I can't sleep. I truly feel like I am being torn apart from just everything and I have no one to talk to. I am just so tired.

Any words of wisdom from anyone? Should I just take the 30 weeks and run back home as a failure and hear my siblings say we knew you would be back. I looked at my pictures from my first day on the job and I was so excited. I was engaged to my sweetheart and we were starting out in a new city on our own. We lost our first two babies from miscarriages and now have a perfect angel. An angel that dad and mom may not be able to take care of now. I am a grown man but I have found myself crying in my truck a couple of times each week. School loans, debt from a home we had to walk away from with a foreclosure, hospital bills from the baby, and the list goes on and on. just tired.

I did read that someone was curious how many people are on here. I think it is a lot. This is the only place some can go just to vent. Hey, MW got a big raise this year and he gotta pay for it by letting people go. MN got a big raise as well. Got to let people go so you can get that salary. Time to dry the tears and go back into the apt and tell my wife everything is great and we are alright.

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Post ID: @OP+15cl4YZ8

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You can survive this. Just be patient and keep calm. This shall too pass. No need for drama. You have listed everything negative in your life. Start making a list of positives. I will start your list: 1- you are young (years are on your side) 2- you are blessed with a child 3- you have your health 4- you have a good education 5- you have brains...... pretty soon you will realize positives will cancel negatives.

Layoffs are nothing to do with emplyee's worth. Just like in life, there will also be unfair outcomes in layoffs, Nature of the beast.....

Come Monday, change your attitude to 100% positive on purpose. Just do it.

Someone who had seen all including 5 oil booms and busts.

Cheers and good luck

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Post ID: @2xei+15cl4YZ8

@1uya, Very well said with a positive attitude. One of the best posts one this site. Thanks.

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Post ID: @1jce+15cl4YZ8

Although we are in a downturn right now, Chevron needs people that have the majority of their career in front of them. Those of us that are closer to retirement (your 35-year guys) are (1) more expensive and (2) unlikely to be there when the turnaround comes due to what HR calls a "short runway". Some of the folks that didn't take the Accelerated EOI could just be biding their time until the event so its entirely possible that we could see another 5-10% leave through the various events.

My experience is that those that worry the most are usually very good performers because they are diligent about their responsibilities. As others have said, turn your worry into actionable items so that you are prepared just in case. And then concentrate on your work and spiff up your GTMIS paperwork. Meet with your Sponsor and PDR, and when the time comes, NETWORK with the job owners.

Finally, call EAP if you need support - they are a terrific resource that can help you and your family think things through. Stress and lack of sleep can deplete your health an immune system, which is the last problem you need right now.

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Post ID: @1uya+15cl4YZ8

If you cost less than the 25 year experience guys you will be fine.

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Post ID: @1gwo+15cl4YZ8

Country boy-

You have already proven how resilient you and your nuclear family are to tough challenges. It’s okay that you felt the pressure and had a weak moment. Now what will you do to protect what you’ve fought so hard to build and preserve over the years? Test the job market with a few external applications? Get rid of (or refinance) high interest debt? Prioritize your family’s needs over extended relations (we all have these struggles, don’t we?)? Map out expenses to understand exactly what temporary financial shortfalls would be to keep YOUR front door open should you lose your family’s second income? Understand what side jobs could fill the income gap temporarily, if needed? These are things I am considering in this environment. Get prepared.

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Post ID: @1xwc+15cl4YZ8

I usually don’t comment but your situation has many parallels to my own, time with company, grade, rankings, etc, Being with the company 11 years you would have been through at least 3 prior cycles so you have made it through those. Honestly I am less worries this time than I have ever been and it is because I have learned to not define my success or worth based on what Chevron wants.

Without getting “preachy” I will just say that we are all fearfully and wonderfully made, don’t let a paycheck or lack there of Make you doubt your worth. God has a plan for you and it might not be at Chevron. Your selfless acts to support your families leads me to believe that you probably do the same at work and go the extra mile for others when it often doesn’t help your ranking, image, etc. Good for you, Chevron needs more people like you and I pray for the best for you.

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Post ID: @1qwq+15cl4YZ8

You’ve been through more trauma in a relatively short amount of time than many will experience in a lifetime. If you and your wife are really in an emotional hole and don’t see a way out, please reach out to a mental health professional.

Outside of that, execute the work in front of you, get your career documentation cleaned up, and start planning beyond the selection dates. If you stay with the company, you need to be able to deliver and adapt quickly. If you leave the company, you will not regret having refreshed your job search, technology, interview, and resume skills. Do it now!

Lastly, take a big step back and look at your priorities. The most important thing you will ever have in life is family, not this job. Cherish your wife. Dote on your baby. You will make it through this.

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Post ID: @1jcy+15cl4YZ8

Get a grip country boy. Don’t mean to be harsh, but at the end of the day this is just a normal industry downturn: 10-20% cut will happen several more times before you retire. Worst case is 1 out of 5 will be let go (and more likely 1 of ten after the EOIs and shuffling the decks a few times). You might get hit, but there is a high probability you will be fine. Stop worrying about what you can’t control. Focus on what you can: be positive, enthusiastic, and take on a “can do attitude”. Even your worse case will work out ...solder up my boy!

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Post ID: @1zwl+15cl4YZ8

I was the one who was asking those questions without knowing what you are actually going thru. I guess in my perfect little world, everything goes smooth and since I have not had any major sufferings in life, I feel entitled to think everyones life suppose to be like me. My apologizes if I have been insensitive. Some of the things you did for your relatives are selfless. I would say don't give up yet and see what comes thru the layoff. You have one 2+ ranking in last three years so that should help. Combined with the fact that you are young and not at a very high PSG will work in your favor. Let's hope for the best. Your family, especially your daughter looks up to you so be strong and at the and of the day, you would be okay one way or another.

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Post ID: @1aqv+15cl4YZ8

I am not sure what type of engineering degree you have, but with an engineering degree you can get another job. It may not pay as much but you never know it could also be the best move to happen to you. I will tell you like I told my wife because she was worried like you. Life will go on. I will get another job or keep the one I have. One way or the other we will make it. We may have a different lifestyle if I lose my job but we will be ok. You will too. What happens is going to happen. I like the recommendation from one of the others about a grateful list. Hang in there. With some of the things you have done it sounds like you have some grit. Pull up those boot straps and hold on. You and your family will make it just fine.

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Post ID: @1flt+15cl4YZ8

Any of the posts taking shots at you when you are down are shameful a^^^holes, ignore them. I have been thru many of the things you are going through in my life. This is what i learned: 1) Stop the stinking negative thinking right away, 2) Find someone to talk to (friend, eap-it works, your religious leader, share your worries with someone, 3) you and your wife should make a Grateful List separately then get together and talk about it, when you do keep looking at your miracle angel, go on a walks, dont sit in your truck, and slowly go over this grateful list several times a day, 4) Your angel loves you even if you live in an 1 room apt the rest of yer young years, she just wants your time, that is free, your family will be with you always, 5) if you are let go then move ahead one day at a time, could be out of oil, but you worked for a company that is highly selective with who it hired and well thought of, that will help you in your next job, 6) recognize that you could have a tendency towards depression and this situation just increases it, i have family genetics that causes slower seritonium nerve firings and have fought depression/anxiety my whole life but simple meds at times help, i have been very successful in my career, talk to your doctor, 7) Your family’s opinion of your independence sounds sadly selfish and should be ignored, Mine still criticize me cause i moved away so i had to minimize communication with them, 8) Google financial help site, some are free, they will advise you about your financial situation, 9) Whats going to happen will happen, its out of your control, go and just play n hug your miracle angel and thank your God for your wife and baby, your years so far with chevron, your independence, your little apt, no one was hurt in Harvey, your education, your ability to learn and do complex work, your health, etc. 10) Great people of the bible were in tears of despair, i read the whole life of Joseph over and over when i get in a tuff spot. 11) if you were laid off your are not a loser. There are 40 million people in the usa laid off and many are in the same situation ss you. You have to keep moving ahead no matter what the outcome is, have that determination to do so.

Now someone will post And ask isn’t this is a layoff site. Well, these emotions are part of being in a layoff situation. You will be fine my friend.

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Post ID: @tdw+15cl4YZ8

BCZ

You have some good questions. I am so sorry about my post on here. I went underwater after my talk with my boss today and the only place to vent was here. I will not deny that I made some bad choices. My wife and I are the first people in both very poor families to go to college. She has a master’s in education and I have a masters in engineering. We have supported both families with their medical bills and rent over the years. She sister had a stroke during birth and lost her baby and we have covered and still are coving those bills. We thought we could flip a big house and make some money but Harvey had other thing in mind. We used IVF first and it failed followed by ICSI which was successful twice. The first was aborted and the second made it to full term. Chevron Medical is great but ICSI falls in another category that just burns cash so we got some big bills there. So, in short, we have huge cash obligations along with making some bad choices. I own it.

I guess it is ok to say it here. I am a PSG 23 2, 2+, 2 and the people I work with that have so many years have had limitations on where they could live and they just did not want to change jobs. Although I get frustrated with them, I am always learning from them.

I do apologize for laying my c-ap out to everyone on here. I never complain and I am always the guy that gets it done. I know the site has a bad name and I just wanted to yell f*ck you MW and all of the executives that make millions.

All of you have been very kind in your responses. Thank you for not beating me up.

country boy in a BIG CITY

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Post ID: @tuf+15cl4YZ8

Some things does not add up. Why would you not enough saving when you worked for CVX for 11 years. Your home is foreclosed which means you did not spend much cash to fix it. Staying in Huston, you should have carried flood insurance. You do have health insurance provided by CVX so your medical bill cant be more than couple of thousand dollars. You should have also paid much of your education loan by now. Well, whatever it is, if you get a second chance this time, please be more responsible to your financial situation.

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Post ID: @bcz+15cl4YZ8

House of cards man, look for other opportunities, have a plan B. Things don’t always work out as the populous thinks they should. Chevron is a very interesting place, pretty large company, the more people the more blurry things appear to management. It’s been my experience that my manager doesn’t even know the difference between what I do an what my coworker does. Have a plan B, I do,

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Post ID: @qwj+15cl4YZ8

Young man, there are a lot more to it when they say “most qualified” If you are in the same pay grade as some people in 20-35 years experience, you must likely be psg 24. Good thing is chevron look at longevity too, you still have quite a bit of time left in the company compare to those guys that May not have that much time left. If I own company I would rather invest in the people that have more time left rather than keeping the people that I know they will be retired in few years time. I make assumption that those people with 20-35 Years must be in their 50s. Most important thing is “be flexible” and you will keep your job unless you really s— and been getting 2-. Another thing is , when one door closes another door opens. Chevron is not the end of the world. You might find a better job or better thing to do. You will never know what you are capable of..Don’t doubt yourself.

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Post ID: @wrm+15cl4YZ8

I’m very worried too with 14 years. But I’ve been preparing for this possible day my whole career and have more than $1MM in savings and investments and no debt from years of living below my means. I had an almost 6-figure negative net worth due to student loans when I joined the company. It will s— to take a pay cut to go somewhere else, but life goes on. My advice: Be flexible and willing to move to other parts of the country for work. Or maybe you’ll pickup something remote and be able to stay in relatively low-cost Houston, if that’s where you are.

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Post ID: @yyi+15cl4YZ8

Agree with previous post, if you really think you can’t compete, then start looking now, don’t wait until October. Don’t forget though that even with the major cuts coming in TPS, 70 to 80% will still be here at the end of the year. Also, JG said that 5% of the TPS cuts are already happening with accelerated EOI so that’s even less that will actually lose a job they want to keep. Gotta wonder though if you’re really at the same PSG with people 2 to 3 times your years of experience, is your PSG too high?

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Post ID: @yiq+15cl4YZ8

“Most qualified” is highly subjective at Chevron, so don’t give up and EOI now. Just ride it out for a few months. The worst case is that you’ll get laid off then get your 30 weeks. The middle case is that you get a job in a new location and chevron will have to pay for the move. Most likely and best case is that you’ll end up still employed in the same or a different role in the same location.

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Post ID: @uzl+15cl4YZ8

Looking for the new job now, also ask your friend, co-workers, vendor, contractors for any possible opportunities.

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