In my experience the absolute worst group to enter/engage in the workforce, possibly ever. They take time off often for lame reasons, believe YOU as a manager OWE them high wages, out-of-sight bonuses, and annual promotions. They have little interpersonal skills, little motivation, and even less vision. Often their work product is for cr-p. When they do work, they want as little work as possible and as much time off as possible. They complain about everything and feel they should get winner ribbons every time they take. $hi+. Do us all a favor and do like Musk says “Be nonproductive elsewhere”
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Some of my recent millennial call outs - “I think I should stay home. I’m tired from playing Video games all night, not sure I should be placing large trades”
I like the millennials. Especially the ones hired by McKinsey & Company. So serious, such nice suits, so green, naive and fresh faced.
Sometimes you simply deserve to take a mental break in a strategy session and enjoy the actors in the play. It’s high humor and better than any movie.
Ok, I’ll bite…. WTF is a “typical purple haired SJW that screeches about toxic masculinity and white privilege?”, and what does this have to do with overpriced coffee?
An ability to communicate can be your best asset while an inability can sink your chances at reaching any goals. Outside of a very small group of your friends nobody would have any idea what you’re attempting to express.
Obviously this is an exaggerated stereotype, but look at many college campuses and you'll see plenty of these people. Look up trump derangement syndrome on youtube and you'll find countless of these people at random protests. I doubt any of them work at the bank, but because most of them get bogus degrees, they just end up working at starbucks, which is overpriced.
Ok, I’ll bite…. WTF is a “typical purple haired SJW that screeches about toxic masculinity and white privilege?”, and what does this have to do with overpriced coffee?
An ability to communicate can be your best asset while an inability can sink your chances at reaching any goals. Outside of a very small group of your friends nobody would have any idea what you’re attempting to express.
@3yzt, yeah, cuz anyone who doesn't live in a city is an inbred hayseed, bigot.
Stop dividing us. We are all in this together. Anyone kicking the legs out from under others for whatever reason we find…..generation, race, etc. not needed!
Bottom line is that BNYM seldom employs people from elite universities...or even mediocre colleges (most US jobs aren't even in cities these days), but let's set that aside.
If you ACTUALLY attended such a prestigious university, you'd be so far removed from working/dealing with millennials.. So yeah, not buying it.
Imagine supposedly going to Cambridge and writing “the most influential men and woman of our time.”
Imagine going to Cambridge and using “3rd world,” which not only doesn’t follow the rule of typing the word for numbers below 10, but is also as outdated of a term as you probably are.
Imagine going to Cambridge and your career is summed up as being an “executive” for influential people. Are you embarrassed telling classmates at your alumni events that you wasted your education by becoming a secretary?
Only a Cambridge grad would say it’s the best university in the world, so maybe you really did go there!
It's ok - we should just tell millennials to pick themselves up by their bootstraps, greet the hiring manager with a firm handshake, and tell them to be the first in the office and last out and only then will they get an ounce of respect from the generation that voted for open borders and immigration. Hey! Did you guys see the sportsball game last night!?
@1jfj TB is Tractor Boy.
Most Millenials are now 30 and above, middle of their career.
The Silent Generation – born 1925-1945.
The Baby Boomer Generation – born 1946-1964. ...
Generation X – born 1965-1979. ...
Millennials – born 1980-1994. ...
Generation Z – born 1995-2012. ...
Gen Alpha – born 2013 – 2025.
Its not the Generational thing , its the timing. Considering the below quote which generation do you think will bring hard times !
Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.
Why would you assume that most boomers are retired? Boomers span 20 years and the first 10 don’t even resemble he next 10 in any way. It’s two massive demographics and the reason why we started naming birth waves. But now we have a new Gen label every 5 years and that’s obviously far too granular. I don’t see much difference between GenX and millennials, only a gradual and continual loss of work ethic and increased entitlement. They’re kind of leading the way to Socialism. Kind of sad really, but you break it you bought it as they say…
At the risk of stating the obvious, Boomers created and built out the entire digital age and we still employ more than a few who had a major hand in it.
So… what will you do with the baton?
Pulled into a hotel parking lot in Philadelphia on a business trip for the Bank and the rental car just slid across the parking lot after freezing rain. I could barely even walk into the Hotel lobby.
I mentioned to the millennial at the desk that the parking lot and sidewalk were iced over and dangerously unusable.
He said “yeah that’s what everybody’s saying”.
Who raised and trained all these millennials? Can’t be the boomers, no, they were so perfect.
OP, the sun is coming down so time to have your oatmeal. Matlock comes on in 30 minutes!
For fun, the next time you're checked into a hotel off an Interstate highway by a millennial do this: Get to your room, then call the front desk on your cell and ask them if their hotel is north or south (or east/west) of the highway. They have no clue! It's hysterical!
@1qtn How about Cambridge? As always people like me have to subject themselves to id--ts like you.
#1 college in Staten Island, maybe.
Cringe thread...
Most millennials have been in the workforce for 10-15 years, depending on where you define the time period. I think many in this thread are equivocating millennials with the fresh out college kids, whom from my experience, are very overeager - not that that's the worst thing. Gen X is what makes up most of the management today as I'm sure most boomers have retired.
It's not like millennials all colluded with each other as kids to tell their boomer or Gen X parents to give them rewards just for showing up or getting over a B on their report card. My friends and I didn't do this when I was 5 years old in the early 90s when the soccer season finished and a trophy was given to me. The coaches/league gave it to all of us lol.
Millennials didn't have the political clout to vote for paid sick days or influence local legislators to implement them - but if I'm entitled to use them, I'm going to do it. If people want to use them for frivolous things then it's on them for when they get into a serious situation and will have to get unpaid time off. The company gives you a lot - I manage a team of 8 and most are millennials and most tended to carryover 4-5 days in the new year. BTW - my wife had a miscarriage and my manager gave me a dirty look for taking a sick day (which I had 5 to use for the year) to help take care of my other kids while she was at the doctor. I guess because I didn't show up to work that day, that's not "good optics", right?
Anyway, this artificial conflict across generations is just a ploy by the elites to break down communities and foster low trust. I for one refuse to put my pronouns on my email and Linkedin profile, I'm opposed to open borders, diversity (as our woke corporations define it) is a weakness and not a strength, MLK and Nelson Mandela were garbage human beings (Marcus Garvey is where it's at..), and think bathrooms should be segregated by your chromosome. If you have a Y chromosome, you will never be a woman even if you wear a dress...
I'm sure the older folks in this thread will probably just assume I'm the typical purple haired SJW that screeches about toxic masculinity and white privilege, but I can assure you most of them work at colleges or serve you overpriced coffee in your lobby.
At the end of the day, if you have a manager that judges your performance by how long you are in the office vs your actual productivity and reputation with business partners, go find another company that values you. I always felt I was underpaid and said so in peakon surveys, but management never bothered to respond to me - instead they just kept bringing in more people at more expensive levels. Only when I resigned did my manager attempt to vaguely say "oh we can try to match that (offer at your new place) and I did feel you were underpaid". Ha! give me a break...
“Hopeless Millennial” Indeed! You are hopeless as is your generation en mass. You needed a ribbon just for showing up and needed to be paid by mommy and daddy for every “A” you received. I don’t compete against Millennials because I’ve hired them. I’ve mentored them as well but they come with the same set of issues as afore mentioned. Name anything your generation has accomplished and I’ll put that up against anything mine has. I wish I was wrong as your generation was next to take over and do better than my generation but alas I did better than my parents that were Senior Executives in their own right. But your generation will not do better than mine in any way. Here’s my mentor to you “Have a vision that drives the human condition forward and not putting your own selfish interests first” then work 12 hours a day focused on that vision. Then you can have a legitimate conversation with me.
50 + people usually Post here saying Bring back Gerald, Bring back TB . They have all long gone and enjoying their retirement , why to bring them back to Board. Why can't you rise up the Corporate ladder and be the change you want to see, and be an inspiration to the Millenials. Be a Mentor and a Guide to the Generation following you. The fact is you can't compete with the Young technocrats because you come from a typewriter Generation. Your best refuge is to post something provocative here, rather than being a Influencer.
@1xrh, I wrote the original post and you’re wrong on all accounts. I didn’t join BNYM out of high school I went to the number one college in the world. I’ve worked as an executive to the most influential men and woman of our time. I don’t have kids in college and I have no interest in retirement, EVER. I also don’t waste my time on Facebook, telling the world everything I do, as if taking the trash out is somehow interesting and validated every little thought on Twitter or feel the need to post millions of TikTok videos. I create, build, vision, unlike your generation who feels becoming a “social influencer” and enriching themselves and give NOTHING back to society is their greatest goal. Your generation has help driving literacy, math, and science down to 3rd world levels. It’s why politicians can sc--w you over so easily, they know you’re lazy and deep down inside, even though your mommies and daddies told you you’re special, you know you’re not.
My personal first amazing millennial call off: “Need to call in sick today. Cat is coughing up hairballs and we have to be at home.”
I’ve yet to see a millennial in the workforce who doesn’t check the d-mb phone every 10, 15 minutes max if not even more. It’s like a generational uncontrollable urge. And we’re laying off seasoned old hard workers who never come up for air?
Orwellian.
Thanks for screwing a millennial associate for years.
OP is definitely in his 50s; started at the bank out straight out of HS and still holding on for dear life. Needs to make three more years out of this place to put his Gen Z kids through college (the irony); willing to do whatever it takes, including entry level stuff because somehow that's what work ethic means.
Millennials? Every H1-B worker runs circles around them
And yet here’s you whining like a baby about it on thelayoff.com…
I do not blame anyone for having a “poor work ethic “ at the bank. I’ve been beaten down and just am there for the paycheck… No vested interest whatsoever but I’m almost 50 & have been screwed over & over & hello realize that I am nothing but a number to the company
That said, I can’t stand the current generation of people that don’t do a dang thing for themselves. Have their food delivered to them, have somebody pick up the groceries for them, cut the grass, clean their house, - if you’re loaded, I guess that’s one thing, but most of these people or winning the government to pay off their student loans for them.
ill milk this dang bank for every little dollar i can get and there's nothing you can do about it. they make enough money. sorry you dont have the drive to hustle and grind gramps. enjoy your retirement watching macgyver
No lie… I asked a millennial coworker if she had any kids. She said “are you kidding me? Do you know how much pampers cost?”
Perspective…
Took me over a decade to pay off mine.
I first realized this in the early 1990s blizzards. I was helping our whole street in shoveling out of a major blizzard before heading over to my parents to shovel them out. I was helping a fairly overweight guy a few houses down who was struggling a bit and I jokingly asked him where his son, a suburb athlete, was. He said oh he’s sleeping before his wrestling practice. Realized soon that none of the teens were out, so I made sure to get my kids into that groove.
Our parents were immigrant depression kids and they made sure to pass on their work ethic. Our regular Saturday routine through he 70s was a mix of painting, plumbing, home repairs, general seasonal tasks and. We raced to get the list done so hat we could run off to hustle for money. All my dad asked was to get his list done first and for us to put his tools back. To us the seasons were cutting grass for money, raking leaves for money, shoveling snow for money, babysitting, odd jobs and cleaning for money. When we hit 16 we all worked like mad. As an adult I learned how hard his childhood was and I was floored.
And yet it's unbelievable , the salaries that employers are ready to pay to hire them.
From what I hear these new graduates in IT, make like $100k +!!!!
Most of them have little to no practical skills/experience. They goof off during business hours (since they are remote) going out, taking calls on their mobile phones and pretending to work. Their productivity is low and always looking for the next job with higher pay.
Call names all you like but my hero’s were Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, and Neil Armstrong, while yours are Kim Kardashian, Mr. Beast, and Taylor Swift. Your Cohort is the laziest, self import, crybabies of all cohorts especially the greatest generation and Baby boomers. Try contributing rather than taking for a change. In the immortal words of another generation that worked hard “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”
Come on, grandpa. We’re just trying to pay back our crushing student debt!
I'm not sure this post is in line with BNY's ESG goals. Come on, Man.
There is something to be said for growing up with adversity and hard work even as children. It really toughens, focuses and teaches one how to be an adult. In hindsight we boomers didn’t do our kids a favor by coddling and protecting them from a harsh world. We meant well but it didn’t prepare them for the real world.
The one thing that I’ll never get is their lack of empathy. My theory is that it’s from growing up communicating with devices rather than face to face.
And get off my lawn!