Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Why Do Most People Here Seem To Dislike Ford HR?

Is it a general dislike for the entire HR organization?

Only the senior leadership?

What about the GSRs or LL6s?

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I trust HR far more than any of the blue collar 'plant' workers. They are all snakes who are lazy and deplorable.

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Post ID: @3npe+1ne6NgKd

I have always said that The HR dept. is of the mindset that if everything was removed from The Ford Motor Co. Including production , maintenance , engineering , quality control , transportation etc. , and all that was left was HR , the place would still make money. They are the fleas on the companies back.

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Post ID: @3ltk+1ne6NgKd

There are a couple of categories of interactions with HR

  1. general inquiries and assistance with benefits and such - HR is adequate — on par with other Ford groups. Some good eggs, some rotten eggs, some very lazy/disengaged eggs.
  2. personnel related issues. - Here Ford HR blows big baby chunks. Advice is to steer clear.

One example: A group of 3 HR employees set up in a conference room and scheduled 30 minute meeting with each person on our team (one at a time). They asked questions about who in the office had been observed inebriated, how often, etc. The first person came out visibly shaken. After he spilled the beans to HR he was accused of not following Ford policy and reporting the behaviors to HR and management, and did he know he could be fired for that, and on and on. Of course after that everyone else disavowed knowledge of the LL6 and his cronies drinking and playing cards in the conference room everyday. In the end HR closed the case saying there was no evidence of drinking on the job and the unlucky first guy up was punished by the LL6 as of course he was told by HR everything the guy had said. Weasels all the way down.

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Post ID: @2xfe+1ne6NgKd

I think most of the angry responses here are from people that essentially 'shoot the messenger'.

HR doesn't select who gets let go. Maybe the CHRO and VP have a say in it. But none of the working level HR people have any say in that. And they are responsible for doing the dirty work when letting people go. All while their ranks are being reduced and off shored.

Also, HR does not decide what benefits are kept or eliminated. A higher up makes those decisions based on their bottom line. And again, HR has to do the dirty work of communicating that bad news to other employees.

HR makes recommendations about what the company should do in a given situation. And it's based on the company's own policy. But the actual leaders can ignore or override those suggestions.

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Post ID: @2lwu+1ne6NgKd

I have a relative who works in HR so I feel a little differently.

But I think the biggest takeaway is that HR's primary purpose is to protect the company. That is mostly achieved by ensuring that the company, or employees, do not violate any laws.

Employee safety, comfort, well-being, end up as byproducts of protecting the company. That can be difficult for employees to accept.

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Post ID: @1qeg+1ne6NgKd

HR Online to HR ChatGPT soon.

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Post ID: @1otv+1ne6NgKd

I wasn't talking about Ford.

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Post ID: @1xjl+1ne6NgKd

@1fxo+1ne6NgKd

That's categorically untrue.

In 2019, after executive leadership made all the HR GSRs & LL6s do the dirty work of Smart Redesign, those same HR GSRs & LL6s were fired and replaced with offshore low cost workers.

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Post ID: @1otv+1ne6NgKd

HR is the only group within a company that is exempt from layoffs and firings.

That's job security.

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Post ID: @1fxo+1ne6NgKd

There is the DEI component of HR. This is where members of minority groups are paid very well to establish a friends and family plan for other members of their group.

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Post ID: @dso+1ne6NgKd

It is not an ethical organization. They spend a lot of time retracting on promises to employees. Take, for instance, the retiree health care. After years of offering good retirement benefits, they decided to save money by reducing benefits. HR decided the retirees can't do anything about it? Look at Via Benefits. It could have easily been set up similar to an HSA where funds paid for benefits directly. But no, it is a big out of pocket expense that then must be reimbursed.

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Post ID: @soy+1ne6NgKd

HR is the red guard that enforces the DEI woke bs...

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Post ID: @hfe+1ne6NgKd

They do whatever management directs them to do, whether it is fair or just i.e. identify all folks with maturing pensions and high salaries so we can chuck them out. Will also likely help we-ponize PIP.

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Post ID: @pxy+1ne6NgKd

As a general rule regardless of company, HR are cold blooded reptiles who would sell out their own mothers if it meant "looking out for the company."

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Post ID: @ltf+1ne6NgKd

They don’t do anything to help GSRs and will always defend the LL level, no matter what!

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Post ID: @pxz+1ne6NgKd

I used to think that way. I suppose I still do regarding the highest levels of HR leadership.

But in my experience, the gsr generalists are just like us. They're given a terrible job to do regardinGB SRD & SIRP and no support when h€ll and hateed rains down on them as a result.

In face, after the SRD, all those generalists were made to dole out the separations and immediately afterwards, most of them were let go.

Now most Ford facilities don't even have a dedicated HR person. You have to call a phone number or use a chat function to reach someone. And, you guessed it, they're an off shore LCC employee.

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Post ID: @lfz+1ne6NgKd

One word.

  • henchmen
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Post ID: @hwh+1ne6NgKd

I was retaliated against after reporting an LL4. HR is there to protect the company, not the employees. Everyone should hate HR. No matter what you do, don’t report or interact with HR except on the day you are hired and the day you quit or retire.

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Post ID: @brk+1ne6NgKd

HR is for the non productive derelicts of a company to have jobs.

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Post ID: @awf+1ne6NgKd

The role of HR is protect the company from it's people and avoid lawsuits. They don't actually give a toss about the people themselves.
And now all the "real" work has been pushed to the call centers who are neither educated nor empowered to be of value.
Something like taking a lump sum distribution of your life savings which could easily be seven figures is handled by someone reading from a script

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Post ID: @ehh+1ne6NgKd

This is true with any company.

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Post ID: @ajh+1ne6NgKd

Ford HR is people last. That's why

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Post ID: @ojf+1ne6NgKd

Ford's HR is neither Human nor a Resource, more useless now than ever. That's the way they want it...

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Post ID: @nxi+1ne6NgKd

HR says retaliation is prohibited.

Meanwhile they promote people who are vile to their employees and if you complain you are marked a troublemaker and retaliated against.

It's all about friends and family plan and HR top priority s there to protect them.

It's disgusting.

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Post ID: @jaf+1ne6NgKd

Kierstan the stank rolled downward and the ranks modeled the behavior of those above and around them. Don’t trust the organization as they are there to protect Ford leadership levels period.

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