Is it a general dislike for the entire HR organization?
Only the senior leadership?
What about the GSRs or LL6s?
Is it a general dislike for the entire HR organization?
Only the senior leadership?
What about the GSRs or LL6s?
I trust HR far more than any of the blue collar 'plant' workers. They are all snakes who are lazy and deplorable.
I have always said that The HR dept. is of the mindset that if everything was removed from The Ford Motor Co. Including production , maintenance , engineering , quality control , transportation etc. , and all that was left was HR , the place would still make money. They are the fleas on the companies back.
There are a couple of categories of interactions with HR
One example: A group of 3 HR employees set up in a conference room and scheduled 30 minute meeting with each person on our team (one at a time). They asked questions about who in the office had been observed inebriated, how often, etc. The first person came out visibly shaken. After he spilled the beans to HR he was accused of not following Ford policy and reporting the behaviors to HR and management, and did he know he could be fired for that, and on and on. Of course after that everyone else disavowed knowledge of the LL6 and his cronies drinking and playing cards in the conference room everyday. In the end HR closed the case saying there was no evidence of drinking on the job and the unlucky first guy up was punished by the LL6 as of course he was told by HR everything the guy had said. Weasels all the way down.
I think most of the angry responses here are from people that essentially 'shoot the messenger'.
HR doesn't select who gets let go. Maybe the CHRO and VP have a say in it. But none of the working level HR people have any say in that. And they are responsible for doing the dirty work when letting people go. All while their ranks are being reduced and off shored.
Also, HR does not decide what benefits are kept or eliminated. A higher up makes those decisions based on their bottom line. And again, HR has to do the dirty work of communicating that bad news to other employees.
HR makes recommendations about what the company should do in a given situation. And it's based on the company's own policy. But the actual leaders can ignore or override those suggestions.
I have a relative who works in HR so I feel a little differently.
But I think the biggest takeaway is that HR's primary purpose is to protect the company. That is mostly achieved by ensuring that the company, or employees, do not violate any laws.
Employee safety, comfort, well-being, end up as byproducts of protecting the company. That can be difficult for employees to accept.
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I wasn't talking about Ford.
That's categorically untrue.
In 2019, after executive leadership made all the HR GSRs & LL6s do the dirty work of Smart Redesign, those same HR GSRs & LL6s were fired and replaced with offshore low cost workers.
HR is the only group within a company that is exempt from layoffs and firings.
That's job security.
There is the DEI component of HR. This is where members of minority groups are paid very well to establish a friends and family plan for other members of their group.
It is not an ethical organization. They spend a lot of time retracting on promises to employees. Take, for instance, the retiree health care. After years of offering good retirement benefits, they decided to save money by reducing benefits. HR decided the retirees can't do anything about it? Look at Via Benefits. It could have easily been set up similar to an HSA where funds paid for benefits directly. But no, it is a big out of pocket expense that then must be reimbursed.
HR is the red guard that enforces the DEI woke bs...
They do whatever management directs them to do, whether it is fair or just i.e. identify all folks with maturing pensions and high salaries so we can chuck them out. Will also likely help we-ponize PIP.
As a general rule regardless of company, HR are cold blooded reptiles who would sell out their own mothers if it meant "looking out for the company."
They don’t do anything to help GSRs and will always defend the LL level, no matter what!
I used to think that way. I suppose I still do regarding the highest levels of HR leadership.
But in my experience, the gsr generalists are just like us. They're given a terrible job to do regardinGB SRD & SIRP and no support when h€ll and hateed rains down on them as a result.
In face, after the SRD, all those generalists were made to dole out the separations and immediately afterwards, most of them were let go.
Now most Ford facilities don't even have a dedicated HR person. You have to call a phone number or use a chat function to reach someone. And, you guessed it, they're an off shore LCC employee.
One word.
I was retaliated against after reporting an LL4. HR is there to protect the company, not the employees. Everyone should hate HR. No matter what you do, don’t report or interact with HR except on the day you are hired and the day you quit or retire.
HR is for the non productive derelicts of a company to have jobs.
The role of HR is protect the company from it's people and avoid lawsuits. They don't actually give a toss about the people themselves.
And now all the "real" work has been pushed to the call centers who are neither educated nor empowered to be of value.
Something like taking a lump sum distribution of your life savings which could easily be seven figures is handled by someone reading from a script
This is true with any company.
Ford HR is people last. That's why
Ford's HR is neither Human nor a Resource, more useless now than ever. That's the way they want it...
HR says retaliation is prohibited.
Meanwhile they promote people who are vile to their employees and if you complain you are marked a troublemaker and retaliated against.
It's all about friends and family plan and HR top priority s there to protect them.
It's disgusting.
Kierstan the stank rolled downward and the ranks modeled the behavior of those above and around them. Don’t trust the organization as they are there to protect Ford leadership levels period.