Just wondering why the RTO compliance is applied so unevenly across the enterprise.
Anyone not badging in the office 3 days a week should be fired, plain and simple.
What about buildings with no badge access, only key? This whole thing is just silly.
Several years ago when ATT was moving to this "no assigned space" format, CRE used the VPN vs LAN access to determine which groups were assigned permanent cubes vs groups being assigned a floor to fend for themselves. This was back in 2019 so the capability is already there. If they are not using now, it does not mean they do not have the info to use against you in the future.
3 days a week. They only check my door chip, so I can chip and leave. For now. I’m sure they have other plans lined up.
It really doesn’t matter whether you’re in office or not you’re gonna get cut no matter what. Every day somebody new is getting aoffer and they’re being told you need to report to Dallas or Atlanta as part of the offer and the salaries are 150+ and they’re asking if they accept it or not so anyone who has a job today and working They don’t want you anymore so get the fu-k out that’s the bottom line for management. If you want to move to Dallas you’re gonna get laid off they don’t want to keep the season knowledge base it’s all about changing as a company as a whole by bringing in new people from the outside with hopes of somebody, leaning in from the outside has another idea because they don’t wanna listen to anybody from the inside, they want divest from all the pension obligations.
This isn’t going to turn out well, and it’s going to promote many to just leave. People making $200k+ a year don’t want some non-technical manager with some basket weaving degree dressing them down over having 5 hours in the office instead of the required 5.34573727 hour the arbitrary system says they need to be in daily.
Ok, fire all those developers and engineers, see how many more data breaches and outages, etc you get with offshored overseas labor.
You all really don't get it do you?
I never see L3's and L4's in the office
You'll find L3 and above get a lot of privilege that us L1-L2 plebs do not. Stock options, bonuses, paid relocation costs, more PTO.
Ironic, considering managing people isn't really a skill you need a degree for. AT&T pumps up worthless baggage instead of focusing on those who do the actual hard work.
Details? Do they know exactly how long you’ve been on or just if you’ve been online for over an hour?
According to the webcast, LAN uses the DRS which pings every hour. Wifi just uses your login as the trigger to give you credit for the day.
Does this work on Mac’s and Windows machines or just Windows?
Only Windows. Mac is not supported.
LAN vs VPN time is regularly reviewed in my org.
Sounds like someone in your org has nothing better to do.
I have to sit in a desk that I can’t put my name on in case townes wants to come in and yell at me
I would just do it. A lot of people are bark and no bite. Just ignore the id--ts.
I never see L3's and L4's in the office. They are always working from home. RTO is not evenly applied. Some people aren't going into their designated areas at all. HR should absolutely weed out the people that aren't following the rules. If they aren't, then perhaps HR is shirking the rules themselves. Stankey laid the groundwork for a simple structure to hang corruption upon. It was kind of the last thing the company needed, but hey John, its your legacy.
OP here. Nothing “suspicious” is going on. I’m in the Townes org (AT&T Business-CS&O) under Welday (Enterprise Business). 5 days with little flexibility is what’s being enforced in my department. Not aware of VPN and LAN hours being tracked yet in addition to badge swipes unless your reporting location doesn’t have a badge reader. Just curious how this RTO joke show is being applied in the other orgs is all.
This type of thread will just make them squeeze even more.
Its applied so unevenly because some offices don't have space for everyone and they removed the reservation system. also in some offices, there are assigned seats for certain orgs, and if you arent part of that org, you get put in areas that really cant support any work at all.
This has all turned into a super course of micromanagement with L3/L4 raises and promotions being tied to where their team is working and not what work is getting done.
We speed no less than 15-30 minutes each week on our team call going through where people are working and the stu pid precense report.
If RTO could die like WF2020 that would be great, and maybe we could all get back to doing the work that keeps this company afloat.
Young people aren’t lazy, but I’m definitely not going to go the extra mile for this joke of a company after all this bs they’ve pulled lately.
They can sod off.
I’ll game the system and collect my check til something else comes along.
Adding more to the post below, you’ll probably say ‘then they don’t need to work here’ and I’ll respond with:
Ok, fire all those developers and engineers, see how many more data breaches and outages, etc you get with offshored overseas labor.
Wait til there’s a software bug and you can’t get anyone because they’re all in India working a different time zone and have the coding skill of a CS 101 student.
Have fun, be my guest. Fire everyone, see what happens.
I have to sit in a desk that I can’t put my name on in case townes wants to come in and yell at me. He also thinks girls are difficult and young people are lazy. What a champ!
Professionals don’t like being policed or micromanaged, so they’re going to push back and find ways to game the system. A lot of these people don’t need to be in the office to do their jobs and view it as a d-mb requirement. If you’re doing something out of fear - you’re likely to try and get out of it if you think you can.
All micromanaging does is hurt morale and motivate people to work less while still meeting arbitrary minimum requirements. They aren’t happy, so they never go the extra mile.
Creatives and developers don’t work well like this, and will put in less effort and work, and will try to bypass silly arbitrary rules that make no sense. They will just do the bare minimum until they can find another job and leave the company.
This isn’t going to turn out well, and it’s going to promote many to just leave. People making $200k+ a year don’t want some non-technical manager with some basket weaving degree dressing them down over having 5 hours in the office instead of the required 5.34573727 hour the arbitrary system says they need to be in daily.
If they’re getting their work done and showing results, none of this other bs should matter.
*Required in office 5 days a week
*Cust Service and Operations
Do the minimum office days you have been told. Stop worrying about other people, stop being jealous and focus on what you need to do.
It doesn't matter if I get three days but your group is required to do four office days. Phukkin do what's required and stop being a victim.
Details?
Do they know exactly how long you’ve been on or just if you’ve been online for over an hour?
Does this work on Mac’s and Windows machines or just Windows?
“Being reviewed” isn’t saying a lot and orgs who are big on RTO have been known to stretch the truth of what the system is capable of.
From what I’ve heard there’s some very basic data, as in it can ping a windows system once an hour and sorta figure out time from that but it isn’t reliable, and it doesn’t work for Mac’s at all.
LAN vs VPN time is regularly reviewed in my org.
3 days minimum is what the badging system is looking for.
It doesn’t currently monitor time on vpn or any of that other nonsense people have been talking about but they’re trying to add it (at least for Windows systems).
Badge in, you’re good. 3 days.
If you’re at 2 days for 2-3 weeks within a 5 week rolling period you get flagged and the Stankey Stazi will reach out to cry about it.
4 days per month for meetings. Expectation is 4 per week. Townes org.
You goes as many days as directed by your supervisor.
I’ve been wondering the same thing
My department is back in the office 5 days each week.
1-5 days a month.
why would we answer you questions
what department are you in.
are you in asset management?
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