Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Bargaining

“But given the current competitive markets where we operate, we cannot sustain the business for all employees by agreeing to demands that are disconnected from market and competitive realities.”

This is an excerpt from the companies bargaining statement last night. Let’s keep in mind what free cash flow was back in 1997 when health care was 100% free. They said the same thing back then that healthcare cost were unsustainable. Now that free cash flow is 20 times what it was and growing they are still repeating this lie. Let’s hope the federal mediators can see how AT&T profits have risen over the last 25 years and executive pay as well. The big problem is not employee pay it’s executives making the worst decisions in history such as buying cable tv companies during a cord cutting.

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Post ID: @OP+1uhlFhtk

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“ Why aren’t you in the policy the Union has negotiated for you? Is your spouse’s in the non-union companies better? Nah, you need to be on T’s policy.”

Nope, she’s in the teacher’s union which has a better healthcare plan so 😝😂

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Post ID: @3qsb+1uhlFhtk
It makes you wonder sometimes if the union leadership is more concerned about their own jobs than any thing else.

Of course. Union leadership are voted in. They're politicians. Have you ever known an honest politician? Humans have a problem with allowing the most greedy, corrupt, and self-serving individuals into positions of power. And we get what we deserve for it.

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Post ID: @2xke+1uhlFhtk

The bargaining team needs to read “The Art of the Deal”. Maybe they have a large bank accounts and can afford healthcare bills without insurance.

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Post ID: @2jtc+1uhlFhtk

‘The insurance is good for a while once, you understand the process. I’m on my spouse’s so 😝 🤣’

So you’re good because your spouse keeps you up. Wonder how long they are going to continue to do that since you’re no longer bringing in any money? Why aren’t you in the policy the Union has negotiated for you? Is your spouse’s in the non-union companies better? Nah, you need to be on T’s policy.

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Post ID: @1nrc+1uhlFhtk

“ It makes you wonder sometimes if the union leadership is more concerned about their own jobs than any thing else.”

Human nature, doesn’t matter if you are in management or a union officer, there are douches everywhere. If your union officer is one of those then, by all means vote them out. We voted a terrible president out of our local several years back. Unfortunately we can’t do the same for some of the company leadership or bad managers.

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Post ID: @1zve+1uhlFhtk

It would of been better to stay at the bargaining table end keep repeating any upgrades to the contract that the members requested and let AT&T know the demands are not written in stone and the union is flexible and wants an agreement. That way everyone still works and gets paid. A daily update is all the members wanted. Instead the bargaining team walked out because they don’t know how to make a deal. Who was on the bargaining team?

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Post ID: @1ikd+1uhlFhtk

I remember being surplussed from DLC as a DT and then had to add 30 minutes drive time in the morning to go to work as an ST to keep my job. The union president acted like he expected us to quit. I overheard the union president speaking to a manager one day and he said in a feminine sounding voice “See you at the reorg”. It makes you wonder sometimes if the union leadership is more concerned about their own jobs than any thing else. Maybe time for a change.,

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Post ID: @1ktt+1uhlFhtk

6 more CP managers showed up at a nearby hotel as I was driving by, could tell they are real experienced by the new boots they were wearing. They looked so happy to spend their Labor Day weekend working troubles, Stankey doesn’t play favorites with anyone below the c-suite, this must of been his new RTO plan. Be safe out there! The 🐝 get more pi---d off the hotter it gets.

“ If the women don’t find you handsome, at least they should find you handy” Red Green

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Post ID: @1cli+1uhlFhtk

“ On Tuesday, you will be receiving notice that your health insurance is going away. The union said they could never get a clear answer from AT&T about that on our call Thursday. What that means is your insurance is gone. The company will be just fine saving that money for awhile.”

Yawn, go away troll. 👀 Do we really seem that concerned, keep working your 12/6. We will wave as you go by to your next trouble. 👋 The insurance is good for a while once, you understand the process. I’m on my spouse’s so 😝 🤣

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Post ID: @1jmd+1uhlFhtk

‘I’m not going back to work until they start bargaining in good faith. We have our bargaining team. The company needs to work it out with them. I say sit out as long as is needed & get as much as we can. No pain! No gain!
MAKE THEM PAY!! 💰 “

I keep seeing so many posts like this. Do you actually think you matter to AT&T? Who told you that? Why do you think you’re not irreplaceable? If you guys mattered to either party, the strike wouldn’t have happened. The union told everyone on that call to keep going without pay, go on Cobra and withdraw from your 401K for the good of the brothers and sisters. All sounds like that Covid narrative that we had shoved down our throats in 2020. Do you seriously think they are working on a contract over the holiday weekend?

On Tuesday, you will be receiving notice that your health insurance is going away. The union said they could never get a clear answer from AT&T about that on our call Thursday. What that means is your insurance is gone. The company will be just fine saving that money for awhile.

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Post ID: @1fxi+1uhlFhtk

You’re right but they have no way of knowing unless the other party was covered by the same insurance and you mentioned it to them.

Or the other driver mentions it when speaking to someone from either insurer.

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Post ID: @ogo+1uhlFhtk

You’re right but they have no way of knowing unless the other party was covered by the same insurance and you mentioned it to them.

That's quite the integrity there.

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Post ID: @onl+1uhlFhtk

“Hope you don't get in a wreck while on that side gig. Most insurance companies will deny a claim once they find out you were driving in a commercial capacity. Some girl had her car stolen when she went in to get the next order and her insurance denied it since she was only insured under a personal policy. Spark offers no Automotive liability or Collision coverage for drivers.”

You’re right but they have no way of knowing unless the other party was covered by the same insurance and you mentioned it to them.

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Post ID: @vzo+1uhlFhtk

$800 a week being a Walmart spark driver.

Hope you don't get in a wreck while on that side gig. Most insurance companies will deny a claim once they find out you were driving in a commercial capacity. Some girl had her car stolen when she went in to get the next order and her insurance denied it since she was only insured under a personal policy. Spark offers no Automotive liability or Collision coverage for drivers.

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Post ID: @fce+1uhlFhtk

$800 a week being a Walmart spark driver. I can stop and start anytime I want. Bring it on!!!!

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Post ID: @elx+1uhlFhtk

Here's the thing about insurance of any kind--you pay not expecting that you will get a dollar for dollar return. You pay so that WHEN you need it, it will pay a lion's share of the actual expenses.

And regarding national vs. regional. We think we are paying more, but the money we are actually paying is based on a contracted rate with the providers. Even before the deductible is met, there is a discounted rate for all those services and prescriptions.

And yeah, healthcare is going up, just like everything else, perhaps even more so. The number of healthcare/hospital systems that are being sold, and the number of hospitals, particularly in smaller areas (even in D3) closing is going up. Healthcare workers are at a premium, cause they worked the pandemic, too.

I think we're going to have to choose between the company's health plan and raises. No way they're going to give us the same (or better which is what we're asking) as we got 5 years ago AND great raises. Have we just flat out asked for the same contract as D9 got?

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Post ID: @dtz+1uhlFhtk

I keep seeing all these post about strikers that are doing contract work for cable companies and not making much. They’re our competitors. That ought to tell you something

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Post ID: @fql+1uhlFhtk

"Remember that union members don’t call walkouts or strikes. They agree to let the union decide that stuff. We basically show up and do our job and get paid whatever the company and union decide. You may be able to make your own choices. We kinda don’t."

This right here, they even told us on the phone call the other night, we went on strike on Friday the 16th at 3pm eastern, but it wasn't voted on until Sunday? Why did we walk out on Friday then?

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Post ID: @rmz+1uhlFhtk

"why don’t they pay us based on a national average"

Consider yourself fortunate you aren't paid based on the value of your skillset

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Post ID: @kaj+1uhlFhtk

If T wants to charge D3 for healthcare based on a national average, why don’t they pay us based on a national average?

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Post ID: @kvz+1uhlFhtk

“Younger CWA members are susceptible to peer pressure. My benefits package is $168k before annual bonus and contributor awards. There is no way in hades I would allow someone making $190k pressure me into jeopardizing what I already have. It's all relative. Make your own choices.”

Remember that union members don’t call walkouts or strikes. They agree to let the union decide that stuff. We basically show up and do our job and get paid whatever the company and union decide. You may be able to make your own choices. We kinda don’t.

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Post ID: @oid+1uhlFhtk

Younger CWA members are susceptible to peer pressure. My benefits package is $168k before annual bonus and contributor awards. There is no way in hades I would allow someone making $190k pressure me into jeopardizing what I already have. It's all relative. Make your own choices.

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Post ID: @oal+1uhlFhtk

We’re not maids!! Definitely questioning the unsustainable comment they made. It’s more than sustainable given the facts and the financial statements going back 30 years. We’re generating more profits than ever in history while certain employees pay has risen faster than the unions have.

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Post ID: @gsi+1uhlFhtk

"The maid thinking she should share in the wealth of the millionaire.

As a reminder, YOU asked the company to accept you for employment. Stop acting as if you were dragged out of your house in chains. No one is buying it."

actually in my case they called me three times offering a job. in hindsight, i should have went with thenother company that was recruitong me.

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Post ID: @lls+1uhlFhtk

ATT is an entity. The board and CEO are employees of the entity. Therefore, the board and CEO should take drastic pay cuts because of their bad decisions and debts. Enacting this policy would save the company millions.

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Post ID: @ber+1uhlFhtk

The maid thinking she should share in the wealth of the millionaire.

As a reminder, YOU asked the company to accept you for employment. Stop acting as if you were dragged out of your house in chains. No one is buying it.

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Post ID: @cnm+1uhlFhtk

First

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Post ID: @evd+1uhlFhtk

The old T serpent speaks with forked tongue.

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Post ID: @zll+1uhlFhtk

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