Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

BFS Standby

So BFS has no $$ for standby pay but they can still afford to pay Digital Techs to do Wire Tech work?

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Post ID: @OP+1voRmnvv

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We get PLE training telling us how important 911 service is etc ... And then they pull this $tupid move.

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Post ID: @5mrx+1voRmnvv

Sounds like there was a pretty long 911 outage in NorCal due to lack of technicians. They obviously believe fines are cheaper than standby pay.

Certain areas of the SE they are bringing back 7 day coverage. So get ready cali, it’s coming.

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Post ID: @5ral+1voRmnvv

Sounds like there was a pretty long 911 outage in NorCal due to lack of technicians. They obviously believe fines are cheaper than standby pay.

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Post ID: @5ltd+1voRmnvv

“ Dude, you are so clueless it’s not even funny, you are so hung up on how important you are that you are either to dummb to get it…”

I guess eye amm two dummb two get it!! Those that can do. Those that can’t manage. Good luck in India!

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Post ID: @4isd+1voRmnvv
Btw the fed is not easing rates anytime soon. Dec will be more than likely .25 cut.

Your ignorance is showing again.

December rates don't matter for the purpose of pension lump sum calculations for people collecting next year.

Keep crying and keep licking those boots.

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Post ID: @3wdt+1voRmnvv

Even if the Feds increase rates again to try to slow growth that $500k works out to $2000/month income in dividends if moved into a 5% yield money market fund.

Slow growth!!! Money market what kind of a m0r0n is posting this cr-p?????? Stick to whatever your day job is bud.

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Post ID: @3bfz+1voRmnvv
and is now a pension and wealth management expert

He's not wrong. Cry more bro.

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Post ID: @3ptg+1voRmnvv

Even if the Feds increase rates again to try to slow growth that $500k works out to $2000/month income in dividends if moved into a 5% yield money market fund.

Wow super tech , knows all about AT&T’ s short and long term plans , the nations top 911 expert, all about intrado, solacom, other vendors and is now a pension and wealth management expert and will explain to us how intrest rates don’t affect bond, treasury and mm rates. Folks we have a sc--wdriving technician that makes Einstein look like an imbecile, how is he not running this company?

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Post ID: @3hun+1voRmnvv

but by all means, keep spewing your ignorance.

Dude, you are so clueless it’s not even funny, you are so hung up on how important you are that you are either to dummb to get it or are ignoring the fact that no matter how important and skilled you “think” you are within 2-5 years you will be looking for another job. So hopefully one of the other companies that you think you are so superior too will hire you and let you come set them straight by paying people $45 an hour to be literally hands and eyes for an engineer and talk them into paying people 700 a week in case the phone rings . You will set them straight cowboy cause you are the highly skilled sc--wdriver turner and have an answer for any question thrown at you , you are brilliant, super human , way to valuable to be surplused, you are bowed down to when you walk in the work center and psaps, 911 directors throw their pa----s at you when you walk in , your second level and sales force consult you on any decisions concerning 911, you are the man I should have realized it earlier I am battling super tech that is the know all and be all of AT&T i yield to you sir I accept defeat. Good luck in your new career when this one comes crashing down . It is a shame that you haven’t put this much effort into your super tech roll because by now you would have been in the C suite corner office in charge of the nations 911 centers and possibly Canada and Mexico’s also.

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Post ID: @3jje+1voRmnvv

Pension and severance is absolutely $500K. This clown can't read.
Wow you are rich now go buy a bass boat and a Camaro

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Post ID: @3ddz+1voRmnvv

“T is well known as being one of the few if only that shows up 24/7. That’s simply not the case with most others.

Other companies are run efficiently, they all cover 24/7 but are not stupid enough to dispatch at midnight because of an alarm or handset at one position not working. Wake up for crying out loud.”

Other companies may have a call center to take your trouble report 24/7, but I’ve seen them leave psaps 100% down and not send a tech out at night…. And when you have 1 handset go bad at 1 position at a 2 position psap, AT&T considers that critical and rolls a truck, but by all means, keep spewing your ignorance.

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Post ID: @2njy+1voRmnvv

“Yes some intrado installations have to be racked, you yourself admitted they come PROVISIONED. I can hire any electrician or telcom flunky with 1 year or less experience to rack , stack and pull wire. Pal, you are not high skilled labor no matter what you have been told or what you think when you look at your paycheck, you earn about $30 an hour more than you are worth. When you Start provisioning the equipment and integrating the data bases and pound on a keyboard all day instead of pulling wire and twisting a sc--wdriver all day then we can talk about being highly skilled until then work your 40 which your company has forced you to do now and be thankful for it until it ends which will be sooner rather than later. My gosh the arrogance is clouding the sign that is flashing in front of your unskilled face.”

Keyboard pounders staring at manual think their skill set is so much higher than some flunky craft tech that goes to a premise, & they may be correct, but they seem to fail to realize that any and all of these keyboard warriors who are not customer facing can easily(and eventually will) be replaced by Bob in New Delhi.

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Post ID: @2cyn+1voRmnvv

Even with 50 years service your pension will not be close to 500k.

Pension and severance is absolutely $500K. This clown can't read.

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Post ID: @2fzv+1voRmnvv
Even with 50 years service your pension will not be close to 500k. So go spread your bs somewhere else.

LOL. Your financial shortcomings are becoming obvious. No wonder you lick Stankey's boot so much.

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Post ID: @2sdr+1voRmnvv

$500k pension and severance means that tech's got a lot of years with the company

Even with 50 years service your pension will not be close to 500k. So go spread your bs somewhere else.

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Post ID: @2mdk+1voRmnvv

Been reading through this post, the assumed manager comments on here are correct.
Hypothetically, tech / techs a psap goes down tech support / management is on strike manufacturers not available or you have no access to them, are you skilled, knowledgeable enough to get that center back up? I don’t think so , you are hands and eyes nothing more . End of discussion, start a new thread.

Hmm, I’m yet to see a manager that is trained/certified on any 911 CPE & none in my area have any desire to work on it nor do they wanna deal with the grievances that will get filed against them when they show up to do our work.

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Post ID: @2cdy+1voRmnvv

Been reading through this post, the assumed manager comments on here are correct.
Hypothetically, tech / techs a psap goes down tech support / management is on strike manufacturers not available or you have no access to them, are you skilled, knowledgeable enough to get that center back up? I don’t think so , you are hands and eyes nothing more . End of discussion, start a new thread.

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Post ID: @2vom+1voRmnvv

Installs are done by the T techs including all of the back room racking & stacking, cabling, and position equipment mounting and placing. The equipment is shipped pre-provisioned

Solacom comes 98% racked.

Yes some intrado installations have to be racked, you yourself admitted they come PROVISIONED. I can hire any electrician or telcom flunky with 1 year or less experience to rack , stack and pull wire. Pal, you are not high skilled labor no matter what you have been told or what you think when you look at your paycheck, you earn about $30 an hour more than you are worth. When you Start provisioning the equipment and integrating the data bases and pound on a keyboard all day instead of pulling wire and twisting a sc--wdriver all day then we can talk about being highly skilled until then work your 40 which your company has forced you to do now and be thankful for it until it ends which will be sooner rather than later. My gosh the arrogance is clouding the sign that is flashing in front of your unskilled face.

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Post ID: @2ifb+1voRmnvv

T is well known as being one of the few if only that shows up 24/7. That’s simply not the case with most others.

Other companies are run efficiently, they all cover 24/7 but are not stupid enough to dispatch at midnight because of an alarm or handset at one position not working. Wake up for crying out loud.

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Post ID: @2bvj+1voRmnvv

30+ years and I’ve never seen a contract that didn’t have that stipulation of sending a qualified/certified tech,

Once again you are dead wrong, Monday morning do your own research and call the 911 techs in your state and take a poll of how many have certifications.
Didn’t say management on site, was referring to tech support because the vast majority of you have no clue of the inter workings or knowledge of the data bases.
As far as you having 30+ years congratulations you have out run it , 25 or less unless you come to reality you are only harming your and your families futures.

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Post ID: @2ocz+1voRmnvv

“Research intrado cloud based psap. It is here and is the future moving forward.”

Yessir! We already have it in many places with intrado and others. I believe the future will be in “state run” hosting with 2 or 3 centers covering a state instead of a psap in every other podunk town(perhaps more centers for larger states).

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Post ID: @2dre+1voRmnvv

“the #1 reason customers do business with us is that we will dispatch out 24/7
Att is not the only provider, actually the manufacturers maintain more psaps than att every thought about.”

Read it again Chuck, it’s no secret that other entities provide 911 CPE but T is well known as being one of the few if only that shows up 24/7. That’s simply not the case with most others.

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Post ID: @2phl+1voRmnvv

the #1 reason customers do business with us is that we will dispatch out 24/7

Att is not the only provider, actually the manufacturers maintain more psaps than att every though about.

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Post ID: @2oki+1voRmnvv

the AT&T tech that shows up is to be trained & certified in the particular type of equipment that the customer has.

Malarkey, I can assure you the tech on site does not have to be certified that is a bald face lie. The company does have to have x number of certified people but in reality most of those are managers very few field employees actually have certifications there are a few but very few. But again the actual installs are done by the manufacturers and repairs other than changing handsets or other minor hardware are done by tech support. No matter how you look at it, it is a dying industry for field techs.

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Post ID: @2jgu+1voRmnvv

Yes sir the person posting about jobs going away is right , the gravy train is detailing very very soon.

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Post ID: @2dpv+1voRmnvv

…and anybody that knows their @ss from a hole in the ground about AT&T 911 CPE services and contracts knows that the #1 reason customers do business with us is that we will dispatch out 24/7

I can assure you that you have never read a contract. As far as 911 goes do you really think the company makes a ton of money off of that? It is more hassle than it is worth. Do some research on your own and see how long it will be before nearly 100% of the psaps will be cloud based anyway. I am not trying to be mean but you really need to get your head out of the sand and wake up. Research intrado cloud based psap. It is here and is the future moving forward.

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Post ID: @2bvq+1voRmnvv

“Contracts are renewed and can have any language the company and customer agree on. You are way out of your league on this one Sonny boy, I refer back to being to arrogant to see the writing on the wall.”

…and anybody that knows their @ss from a hole in the ground about AT&T 911 CPE services and contracts knows that the #1 reason customers do business with us is that we will dispatch out 24/7 and I’m yet to see a contract yet that didn’t specify that the AT&T tech that shows up is to be trained & certified in the particular type of equipment that the customer has.
It’s not arrogant of us to acknowledge your ignorance or downright stupidity.

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Post ID: @2pfg+1voRmnvv

You may want to read these 911 CPE contracts that we have with customers which specify that T will only be sending techs that are specifically trained & certified by the manufacturer/provider.

Contracts are renewed and can have any language the company and customer agree on. You are way out of your league on this one Sonny boy, I refer back to being to arrogant to see the writing on the wall.

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Post ID: @2jeu+1voRmnvv

Good for you , you are actually in an extremely small minority. Awesome on being wealthy also again one in a thousand that has done it right. Good job.

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Post ID: @2kxn+1voRmnvv


You know it is actually sad that you folks are to arrogant to see the writing on the wall you all better start brushing up on your skills and figure out what you are going to do in the next 2-5 years. Because hanging a router on a wall and calling an engineer is not going to last to much longer boys.”

…..emails & teams meetings aren’t gonna last too much longer either, but with a solid skill set like that you should land a solid gig. There’s plenty of blue chips that would scoop you up in a heartbeat.

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Post ID: @2srf+1voRmnvv

“911 , what a joke go to the site and call tech support real hard, as far as the installs go intrado or Solacomm do that so give me a break.CPE, no pbxs anymore so if you can replace a router and call DTAC you are good sorry boys the days of you actually being skilled labor ended about 10 years ago, I know the truth hurts but start looking for something else to do. “

You may want to read these 911 CPE contracts that we have with customers which specify that T will only be sending techs that are specifically trained & certified by the manufacturer/provider.

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Post ID: @2dxj+1voRmnvv

What's with all the low iQ bashing of craft personnel? I'm craft and happen to gave 2 college degrees in business and computer technology. I preferred the freedom of being in the field rather than being a desk jockey! Had the opportunity to go into managent, but declined! Being a field tech is an awesome, good payng choice and it served me well! I'm successful and wealthy, what more can I ask for!

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Post ID: @2tgk+1voRmnvv

You know it is actually sad that you folks are to arrogant to see the writing on the wall you all better start brushing up on your skills and figure out what you are going to do in the next 2-5 years. Because hanging a router on a wall and calling an engineer is not going to last to much longer boys.

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Post ID: @2ubr+1voRmnvv

Yeah. I bet there’s tons of contractors staring at the phone waiting for it to ring at 1 AM on a Sunday

Don’t count on it , those boys are hungry just like a lot of your broke co workers that will be answering the phone.

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Post ID: @2waz+1voRmnvv

I’m also sure every single one of them are properly trained and certified to work on 911 CPE too.

911 , what a joke go to the site and call tech support real hard, as far as the installs go intrado or Solacomm do that so give me a break.
CPE, no pbxs anymore so if you can replace a router and call DTAC you are good sorry boys the days of you actually being skilled labor ended about 10 years ago, I know the truth hurts but start looking for something else to do.

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Post ID: @2rbc+1voRmnvv

So are you going to spend every minute of your life of every 5PM to 8AM Monday through Friday

No wonder you people are in a low skill dead end job. If your phone rings answer it and say yes or no simple as that. I know I am dealing with very low IQ individuals but come on dummmies!

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Post ID: @2hnx+1voRmnvv

I mean yeah, if the higher ups at BFS are claiming budget issues and half of the BFS work is Prem/Wire Tech Uverse work then it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the best way to save on the budget. Now we won’t ever see it happen because that would mean that half of the BFS staff would no longer be needed, but the fact remains that the budget issue is easily fixable.

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Post ID: @1uzn+1voRmnvv

“If you answer the phone and go you will be paid , period.”

So are you going to spend every minute of your life of every 5PM to 8AM Monday through Friday & all of Saturday, Sunday, & holidays waiting for T to call you? You’re not going to take a weekend trip, go to your kids ballgame, a dinner date with your spouse, or have a few while watching the game at your friends house ? You’re just going to sit there waiting for daddy T to snap his fingers?
Of course we get paid for the time worked, that’s not the point. T has just implemented their plan that says we should prioritize T over our personal lives & family. If T wants out of normal business hours coverage, they need to continue to pay for it. Until then, we ain’t coming.

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Post ID: @1iag+1voRmnvv

Yeah. I bet there’s tons of contractors staring at the phone waiting for it to ring at 1 AM on a Sunday so they can go knock out a TMobile ticket within the timer, & I’m also sure every single one of them are properly trained and certified to work on 911 CPE too.

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Post ID: @1rmq+1voRmnvv
And by the way there is not a one of you losers that have close to 500k in your pension even if you had 50 years service.

Stop posting. You're only showing how stup1d you are.

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Post ID: @1srz+1voRmnvv

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