Thread regarding Sears layoffs

You all are in a game you cannot win

Just want everyone to know that this is a game of financial Jenga (registered trademark) and the employees are the pawns. They will cut hours, neglect store maintenance, get rid of employee discounts, cut payroll, work you harder, reduce or increase the temperature in your store, take away benefit, give you no incentive (raises), keep you in fear of losing your job due to store closings, violating some archaic rule they just made up or whatever until the end game Eddie and his boys have is completed. It really doesn't matter what you do, how hard you work, how much you stock, how profitable your store is , how long your lease is, where you are located, if your store is owned or leased, how you treat the customer, how many registers you have open, if service is a mess or any other thing that a decent retail operation would care about. it is all about credit card applications (which they get around $20 from the credit card issuer), the personal information of the customer (which they sell) and the extended warrenties which they make a percentage on. This business has failed and it was planned that way.

IF they really cared about the customer they would fix their stores, present a professional appearance, go out of their way to keep customers and employees happy, give an incentive to improve oneself which in turn would reflect well on SHC, have in stock what customers want, when they want it (or to put it another way "SYW", , have a computer system and technology that is in the 21st century (instead of having some motto of having employees "embrace technology"), and I could go on and on and so could you.

99.9% of the people at corporate are just like you-- they know nothing, they go to work and they hope they can get another day of employment. The only people who know are Eddie and the board of directors. Get a clue and get out. Don't be a pawn for someone elses enrichment

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Post ID: @OP+Lp9TYY5

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So an exec at Hoffman who make 200K a year, which would put them in the upper management, VP area is on the board posting about gaming the system of just waiting until some recruiter calls with a better offer. If I was pulling down 200k why would I waste my time on these board listening to store level employees whine and complain. Why would I even care?

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Post ID: @1tta+Lp9TYY5

you do realize that head office are on these boards too, it's not all stores employees. I'm sure that the execs at HE are getting more than a store manager

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Post ID: @iux+Lp9TYY5

Just learned that they are cutting employee discounts this week.

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Post ID: @tkd+Lp9TYY5

Mr $200k - you are a liar! As a former store manager who got out and now works for another company I can tell you NO store manager in the company makes $200k, lol. Even when times were good those running supercenters didn't make that much. I was making $72k and I was the highest paid SM in my district. Even my DM wasn't making $200k. If you are still there you are a loser who no other company will hire. You obviously can't find another job. Recruiters are calling you in your dream world fantasy land, haha! Why haven't you moved on to "bigger and better" as of yet, as you claim you are planning? You need to get out (if anyone will even hire you at this point) before the job market is flooded with former Sear and Kmart managers. Staying until the BK will only prove to potential new employers that you were too lazy to look for work until you had no other choice, show you to be incapable of reading trends and seeing that the company was tanking. Why would you stay with a company with the worst medical benefits I've ever heard of? At my current job I pay a third of what I paying for my medical + dental benefits, long term disability is company paid (SHLD makes YOU foot the bill) and make a higher salary. Sound to me like you're not "playing the game", more like YOUR getting played, lol!

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Post ID: @xqw+Lp9TYY5

200k a year, ha, ha, ha. My old store manager had been with the company for 32 years and was only making $48k. $48k for 32 years of working 50-70 hour weeks. The DM's might make $75-100k I would assume. So 200k is what you dream of making. And recruiters calling--ha,ha,ha-- maybe the are calling to tell you to stop bugging them about a job or they will put a restraining order out on you

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Post ID: @vwj+Lp9TYY5

qou- Wait until you put down Sears on your resume. Not something that other employers would consider a benefit to hire. Other employers know what type of company this is and how it is run so why would they hire someone who has learned to run a retail operation the wrong way. My two year old can bankrupt a company. Most businesses look for people who have worked at successful companies to hire.

What can any manager tell their next employee, "Our store lost 7% of its business year after year", "The store I ran went from 10million in sales to two million in three years" See what I mean? SHC is not successful company, it is not run like a regular business, the systems and tech are ancient. So what could any person bring to the table from SHC? Not bashing just wondering

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Post ID: @vma+Lp9TYY5

lol 200k. They pay you 200k while Eddie has to borrow 700 million from himself to avoid foreclosure/.. 200k is more than the budget for my entire store... do you also have a private sears helicopter with attached asbestos detector?

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Post ID: @xbg+Lp9TYY5

The game I'm currently playing is $200K+ a year with recruiters phoning me daily, Sears is not as bad as you make out

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Post ID: @lfd+Lp9TYY5

What game could you possibly be playing working for a retailer that pays well below the average at every position with horrible benefits? If you want to play a real game and you are in any sort of management position I would recommend switching companies and immediately increasing your salary, your quality of life, and getting real experience. Your game is over

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Post ID: @zvn+Lp9TYY5

For such a smart poster you sure seem to have lost all sense of reality... Do you truly think your managers with talent are STILL with your company?!?!? Top managers have been recruited by other companies and the rest have left because they are smart. I left your company as an SGM to go to a better company and believe me when I tell you by staying longer you are losing credibility because there is a thing called bad experience and that's what SHC has. The retail environment understands that most management left over has been put in place because there is no competent manager that will take a job with sears at this point so they promote the next body that will work for nothing or someone that simply has been there a long time. I hope you can make the wonderful talent of closing stores at a historical rate sound good on a resume ;)

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Post ID: @kfr+Lp9TYY5

@BurgerKing2017 that's the failure of you 'smart' associates (the underacievers that never made it one rung up the ladder.) The real smart employees are here playing the game, working the system to our advantage, we are already ten steps ahead of you while you are still thinking about what pseudonym to use on some lame message board. We take what we need for the sake of our careers (and ultimately the security of our families) then move on to bigger and better things, that's what smart employees do, we play the game, we don't complain, we're not resentful, we're focused, we work hard, we get rich and you stay poor - you should try it sometime instead of investing energy into whining (and before you ask I'm on this lame message board doing research to further help in that game I mentioned ;)

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Post ID: @wou+Lp9TYY5

To George Carlin; learn how to put a sentence together then come back to us with your insight, you are either uneducated or were drunk when writing that!

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Post ID: @hmd+Lp9TYY5

Sears will never go down!!! We are too big to fail!!! If anyone doubts that we will be around then you should listen to your leaders and look at our transformation. JCP will go and Macy's will go and we will still be here and sell more than Walmart and Target and all other competitors.

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Post ID: @vjk+Lp9TYY5

ridicously awesome post: 'There are still many opportunities to capitalize on, it's all in your perspective. I'm learning things that no 'normal' company could offer. My qoute is: " snot running out of my nose that I laughed so hard" We Really Need George Carlin now to put this in perspective...and he sure could. And I Do Now...no, I can't because I'm not that gifted. For Everybody still manning the sinking ship..well just make it up in your own mind and get a laugh remembering George and his very accurate look at things. There is no other way to do it now. Nobody owns me and I draw the lines. I'll stay till I do and then be gone. SHC is nothing but what George Carlin would've have found a great joke in.

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Post ID: @suh+Lp9TYY5

lol when you put sears on your resume, legit jobs will laugh at you, your qualifications are that you helped people shop their way so they could freeze while shopping inside a broken building full of asbestos

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Post ID: @wwu+Lp9TYY5

I disagree that we can't win. There are still many opportunities to capitalize on, it's all in your perspective. I'm learning things that no 'normal' company could offer. With each and every day at the company I grow into the leader I want to be (to my benefit when I leave for a more normal company soon):

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." MLK

While I'm not 'there' yet my experiences at SHC is helping me 'get there' and so can you if you alter your perspective, you can win at SHC while helping you and the company out at the same time, I know I am.

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Post ID: @qou+Lp9TYY5

There's no pawns in Jenga.

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