Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Who knew being a cloud company was so complicated? LOL!

re-experiencing the death of Alpha 21264....

2005 ... that's 12 years ago. more than a geological era in terms of IT, many things have changed since then.

O has killed SPARC not because the CPU was not able to compete performance-wise. It has been a (wise) decision taken on a completely different level.

From a purely technological point of view, the M7 and the new M8 is (and will be for at least 1 year) the best CPU money can buy, fullstop. Just name another 32 cores, 5GHz, SWiS and crypto enabled cpu that can do more than 200k OLTP TPM per core (more than 6.7M per cpu!!!). From the Intel published results the brand new Skylake Xeon 8180 can do 111k per core and 3.1M per cpu.

And if you use analytics (and the hw acclleration inside the cpu) results are in the 10x figure versus skylake.

But, but, but, O has really never pushed it, and Tech was openly contrary to the point they suggested many customers to buy underperforming non Oracle x86 instead of SPARC so that to sell more lics (usual trick, used since OPC was launched, dear customer why spend money on hw or clustering sw, just buy our sw and you will get the same benefits with less costs.... yeah, sure)

As a former customer, we used Sun exclusively for ASIC development tools -- placement, routing, simulation, etc. Even on the best Sun platform these programs ran for days. Days that are on the critical path for development. Between 2000 and 2005, we swapped out every piece of Sun gear for x86/Linux platforms because they were much faster and cheaper as well. The cost saving were icing on the cake. We would have gladly paid Sun prices for the extra performance. Friends tell me the same thing happened in the finance world. It was NOT about Solaris -- it was about SPARC. Our apps providers would have ported to whatever OS the platform needed. When Sun was fastest, the ported to Solaris BECAUSE SPARC was fast.

“Who knew being a hardware vendor was so complicated?”

-Oracle management

@PP7RZM8-nzn : and were have YOU been in the last years? SPARC catched up with intel on per core perf on almost all workloads with T5 (actually also T4 was comparable on some workloads), currently T8 is 2x per core wrt skylake on OLTP perf, comparing intel published HammerDB results with T8 ones. not even talking about throughput, M7 with its 32 cores was already way ahead in terms of throughput perf wrt any other cpu in the market.

now maybe that's the problem, 2x perf per core means 1/2 lics needed for the same perf. not good.

SPARC was killed not because of perf, it has been a purely business decision (and to be perfectly clear, not based only on the lics problem).

Clearly you are Oracle sales Exec management. Sitting on your a-- all day surfing the web.

Clearly none of you are in sales. Good sales people are pounding the pavement and in front of customers. All day, every day. Not in the office.

MH thinks customers will just auto-download their cloud apps and pay with a credit card. He's on some serious coc--ne...either that or he's a numbskull. Regardless, Oracle sales reps are being screwed right and left with his draconian incentive comp changes. There's a storm brewing that's for sure.

Have you checked the corner for the missing sales people:

@PLHEJMr-2zeb

MH has done a great job demotivating sales and now he can use it as an excuse to fire them. He knew what he was doing all along. That’s how he destroyed HP

Wow- it’s social media’s fault? SPARC fell way behind Intel in performance 15 years ago. Oracle is making the right business decision by phasing out Solaris because it is not selling anymore. Where have you been the past few years?

This is the culture MH created. Why sell when you are worried if you will get laid off? Most people who are smart are updating their resumes and looking for another job while getting paid.

Sounds like they have given up. Maybe there's a reason for that.

Yeah, we did do a good job of getting your clients to move to a Texas company. We are hiring too!

What a waste of time ! Just got out of a SPARC T4 customer who cancelled the plan for upgrade and told straight on my they are going with Dell. The social media rant on SPARC death killed all my potential deals.