Thread regarding Corinthian Colleges Inc. layoffs

Anonymous20933; Looks like the guy calling him Scott Moon basically copied the terms you used and showed you how wrong you are. I looked at the link to the PowerPoint and it proved you wrong. Slide 9 did say that "MDDBMS Focuses on analyzing the data, not recording transactions". You said that CCI didn't have the highest transactional database and then listed a source that cannot even do transactional stuff. So the fact that he knew you can't use a MDDBMS to do transactional work shows your weakness in that area. It appears your research is very weak on the subjects you purpose to have a great deal of knowledge about.

I am not in IT but every point you tried to make he basically shut you down with. You can't even post things to back up your claim and even did what you told him to do which was search for them. Hr was able to prove you wrong with that power point slide and your come back was to call him a wannabe and to take your ball and go home. I know that once you start calling people names you have lost the argument.

enough of the IT bashing.... I worked as a on campus network admin and while there where a lot of us who didn't know their job there were a lot who did. As for IT people having to do a lot less work to find a job its true, recruiters call and email us like admission reps call potential students... the reason for this is simple, not everyone can do what we do, if a company spends 300k on a switch they want people how know how to configure them and frankly 90% of the population can't apply to the jobs that we do. I left cci took a network engineering job that pay'd me 20k more, then a year later go a 20k raise because of multiple job offers from other companies. If you want high paying jobs here's a tip, get on career builder see what the high paying positions are and which ones are in high demand, determine what skill set you need and then study and obtain that skill set.

Like on poster said you have to get off your but, I studied about 5 hours per day and still study at least 3 time a week like most like me I have built a lab in my home and stay on top of new technologies.

it's not something that happens overnight you have to work for it.

Instead of just searching and reading in parts, read through and comprehend. Doing copy/paste and throwing around terms like you technically understand what they mean is amusing. Fyi, these are the dbs that run the backends of the busiest transactional environments in the world. Huge brokers, exchanges, Airlines, ... The last post, done playing games with a wannabe.

Anonymous20917: I knew you were clueless from your first post. You don't even know the difference between OLAP (MDDBMS)and OLTP (MSSQL).

From google when searching MDDBMS (A multidimensional database management system (MDDBMS) is a database management system that stores and manages data in dimensional arrays, indexed by dimensions and measured over time.) That is not a transactional database, that is a data warehouse. Transactions are not stored in DIM or Measures as those are OLAP terms and BI specific.

The OODBMS.7 is for an object database not which is still relational (From wikipedia: An object database stores complex data and relationships between data directly, without mapping to relational rows and columns, and this makes them suitable for applications dealing with very complex data.(7) Objects have a many to many relationship and are accessed by the use of pointer). OMG OODBMS.7 is a relational database that uses pointers for relationships. Go here http://www.powershow.com/view/31ab5-ODM3M/OODBMS_MDDBMS_powerpoint_ppt_presentation and look at slide 9 which states "MDDBMS Focuses on analyzing the data, not recording transactions". Once again you got schooled, just admit that you are clueless.

Like was stated, you are clueless with the typical CCI hubris. Not getting into a pissing match with someone that doesn't even know the high-end db processing world, let alone experience it.

Google these genius: MDDBMS, OODBMS.7

BTW. Your line - "you may want to speak to Microsoft about that since we run the highest transactional database is SoCal." has brought a lot of a good laughs to the OC technology community. Let's hope your name isn't really Scott Moon, because if it is expect questions on that statement when looking to implement the next highest transactional DB in SoCal elsewhere. Quite possibly the dumbest statement ever made by someone from CCI IT, and that's saying a lot.

Thanks for the encouraging feedback. And yes, I was making light of the zero to six seconds IT post :). I found that a little arrogant but funny. Not to negate IT, some of them do have skills that are in very high demand, so yes some can get a job more quickly than others and good for them. I don't want to reveal my industry because I may give myself away to who I am, but it's an average to above average demand. Everyone is not meant to be an IT professional, if that was the case then who do the rest of the important work. We all play an important role in an orginization, it's about what your apptitude is and what job you are happy at that makes you successful.

I'm getting interviews so my resume is working for me. I don't get too nervous in interviews, but in the past I have mostly interviewed in a different county of the state. I guess I am just a little discouraged at the moment and will re-evaluate some things to get back on track. The point I was making in the original post was that we are quick to make assumptions and pass judgement on people because of thier color, when they are trying to work and feed their families and get educated just like you.

Should I also be quick to think that everyone interviewing me is like you?

I dont' know that by looking at you of course, but this site is very disturbing and it's disturbing to think that some of you may be making decisions on who to hire and who to fire now or in the future.

Yes you can hide your age, your $exuality, and your health when you walk into an interview, but many of us can't hide our color or gender.

Again thank you all for the suggestions and the feedback. I will take them into consideration.

Anonymous20906 - a breath-takingly stupid post.

Anonymous20906: Reading from your post I can conclude that you have no clue what so ever about databases. Why would they use NoSQL? MySQL? In fact since the non-relational databases lack ACID that alone makes them unsuitable for banking, financial and medical where transactional and consistency is paramount. Just because I want to school you some more the non-relational databases are good at BI and analytics which are not transactional anyways. Any questions?

MS SQL, for a high transaction DB? Too funny, there shows the CCI hubris. Totally clueless.

There is NO WAY, you run even in the top 1, 000 of high transaction DBs in So Cal. You may be a good MSSQL DB admin, but any company that truly needs a db to handle high amounts of transactions wouldn't use a relational db, let alone MSSQL. And, if you truly do that high amount of transactions and are using MSSQL, it just shows your total lack of technological knowledge.

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The amount of transactions that a college could possibly process, pales to anything in the financial, aerospace, medical and other truly data intensive businesses.

This is a prime example of what can be seen at CCI. Too many in IT actually think they are top tier talent and they are not. MSSQL is a small to mid-tier at best, db. Sounds like a typical contractor who gets hired on. Best of luck in your high transaction db career, having you ran the highest transactional db in So Cal on MSsql will definitely work in your favor in getting hired in zero to six seconds.

Anonymous20877: You may want to speak to Microsoft about that since we run the highest transactional database is SoCal. Now you know my name and please let me know what my shortcomings are and where I am not highly skilled. Please, please tell me why I can't hack it in other IT places.

To the original poster. You may be better off being a lower level IT member. Other companies would be more willing to hire a less experienced person, as they can still be trained in best practices. Just keep sending your resume out. Use CCI and nothing else as company name and try to leave out any sort of detail that may point to the company being in education. That should at least help a bit in getting an interview where you can then make your case, it v should also help in getting past the auto screening.

As for the IT person saying they are highly skilled and can get a job quickly, it's BS. There is not a single person that is truly highly skilled in IT set CCi though they may actually think they are. That includes the new IT VPs and directors. They are all staff who couldn't make it in real IT departments. I was astonished at how the whole corp IT dept was clueless in properly utilizing technology in their environment. They are the running joke in OC, especially around the south coast metro area.

Keep your head up, write and show that you want to learn, and say you will work hard at becoming a great team member. Eventually it will reach the right person at one of the places you apply and you'll have an opportunity. Think positive to push through the mentally trying times.

OP (Anonymous20781)- If you only had the skillz to pay the billz... Should have gone to Everest!

Me, Me, ME!

Any chance you could take this debate to another/new thread? I don't think this was supposed to be about you.....

Anonymous20847-The pay rate IT staff earn at CCi is actually lower than average across OC. I worked and enjoyed by career for CCi until this mess and decided to leave. It did not take long to locate another IT position in OC that provided a decent increase. I was interviewing with a few companies and they all were within a few $1000 dollars of salary and benefits. But the kicker was, they were all at least $7500 above my CCi salary.

We earn a great salary because we chose to study and certify in a field that was technical, highly skilled and best of all had great growth potential and competition. The high rate also has us working some nights and weekends to keep systems current and updated.

IF you wish to earn the salary, spend the 4-6 years in college earning a technical degree, keep up to date on technology and training and ascertain certifications with highly marketable skills. I did and do not feel bad for those who complain I get too high of a salary. Get off your butts and put in the work!

Anonymous20847- Show me your paycheck stubs, and if they are like you suggest, I'll understand why CCi is going under.

Anonymous20825: What proof would you want from me that I am not highly skilled IT person? My Microsoft transcripts, paycheck stub, a jeopardy style contest between you and me?

I appreciate your post. Are you at a campus or CSC? A few suggestions:

If you have access to the campus, sit down with a trusted, effective, experienced career coach. Having another set of skilled, professional eyes on your resume and search plan can be a good thing. Do a couple of mock interviews with this individual - and be willing to accept/use constructive feedback. Step back and re-evaluate your approach. Change something - if you keep doing exactly what you have been doing, you will keep getting what you have been geting. Network. Use Linkedin and other sites to connect with those in your field. Use indeed.com - it aggegates openings from several sources. As hard as it is to do while employed, step up the freaquncy and volume of your efforts. Follow-up! Jobs often go to those who are the most professionall, pleasantly, persistent - not necessarily to those who are most qualified. I am happy to talk to you individualy if we can figure out a way to interact without violating privacy on this board......

Why is it ways about race. Seriously. I am black and that excuse always comes up.

If it helps, CCI has zero highly skilled IT persons to begin with. Never has.

I really liked my job. I still do, but no longer have one. Some of the people on this board make me mad they have jobs. Some people have been cruel and evil, without care. But, don't feel bad. Once all is said and done, you will be in a better position. They will not be your competition for new jobs.

You are awesome! Thanks for pointing put what jerks so many have been on this site. I wish you the very, very best. You sound intelligent, kind, and thoughtful. You certainly have qualities beyond just knowledge in your field, that employers want. Best of luck to you.

McDonald's career page: http://www.mcstate.com/careers/ the only job you idiots can get now!

Thanks for your I guess, encouragement, but I don't think she was lashing out. She is simply stating what she saw on this board. I think she was referring to the posts that are on this site. And people on this site using those terms may very well be working next to her. If you notice someone posted they were IT and could get a job in zero to six seconds. She has a good point. It may not be as easy for her to find a job as an IT person, but she did say she has skills too. She may have a sense of humor too in referring to that post :). I found it rather funny myself and might use the line myself one day.

Other posts on this site refer to "black quota", trash and ghetto. I get the feeling this was a very strong women, who has become discouraged by the job hunt and the posts on this site. She is clearly trying to make a point that this site should be about helping people get laid off or who will get laid off. Maybe encouraging YOU to think. I think we have a lot to learn from this young lady. ...White male age 36.

You sound very discouraged and afraid which is common in times of change and will manifest itself in many different ways. The terms you use (black, ghetto, trash, "black quota") seems to me that you are lashing out at others instead of looking inward, a typical response of "fight or flight" which is normal behavior. My suggestion is to leave this board and it's negativity behind, work at the pace you are comfortable in and keep looking. Everyone gets taken advantage of, even high level IT people. The job market is tough but the key is to use a recruiter that the employer pays for. They have an interest in finding you a job because when they do they get paid. Make them work for you and find a job that makes you happy. You are responsible for your happiness and health, no one but yourself can keep you down.

My Dear I do empathize with you. As for this site just know that something about the internet brings out the beast and it is kind of the underbelly of humanity. Because frankly we are all scared and vulnerable and deflecting. It took me 2 years to get a job (white but age 50 so I have my own battles with discrimination). But I did get a job and you will too. I filled in the gap with temp work. Just don't give up and don't get down on yourself. I know it isn't easy but your kids have a strong mom and you can take great pride in that. You seem like an intelligent and wonderful person.