Thread regarding Bank of America layoffs

@119 did they announce it??? I’m anxious

Props to whoever shared this, you are right on the money! Thank you!

Gcb now has to come in 4 days a week. This started March second. Wonder if this will be mandatory for the rest of us soon.

What a big brother move, as long as you show up to the office and are getting your work done who cares how long you’re there. What a joke. Let’s see if they actually start cleaning the office now if they’re gonna force people to show up all day. Anyone who works in an open workspace, knows what I’m talking about. It’s disgusting.

@qw the only people that will disagree are b4 and up. Majority are a holes and money motivated, broken family and lack of personality

@vv I’m more surprised that BofA isn’t rolling it out after we all complete our ESAT surveys

@vv was the announcement made? I’m on maternity leave so trying to see what’s happening in preparation for my return

What a time to announce it, during employee appreciation month. You can't make this up.

@dn General notification changed to Friday. There are fewer people physically in offices and fewer chances to blow an entire afternoon with employees huddling to complain about the new policy. The furor dissipates over the weekend.

@k6 curious to see if this announcement will affect only Fraud or if it's enterprise wide. If at happens at all, which of course would be preferred.

@b3 ...What's going to happen is that they are going to either compare the time you swiped your card vs VPN log in time/date stamp. OR they may monitor a way of your access card remotely when walking out the bldg without us even knowing even though we are not required to swipe our access cards when leaving.

From my understanding the bank had already begun installing devices to check the whereabouts in the buildings when in office supposedly in the event something bad happens. I think what prompted that was the bank employee at one of our competitors discover employee dead at their desk for days and no one noticed it not even security.

If the access card tracking inside of the buildings are true, time to get a RFID badge cover. LOL

I don't think they can require us to use our access cards to swipe when departing because I think that maybe a fire hazard and/or other risks that could lead to some frigging lawsuits.

At the end of the day, the bank is spending TOOOOOOOOO much rabbit a$$ time and money on finding ways to make sure we are in the office. If the Wizard of Oz Moynihan can get a big a$$ bonus each year as us little folks get no more than 2% to none pay increase and/or less than 3k-zero bonus incentives why should it it matter where we work from. If it wasn't for the little people like myself and rest of us he Wizard of Oz a$$ and his puppets wouldn't getting hundreds of thousands-millions of bonuses along with their pay raise so the hard working employees must be getting the job done regardless of where they are working from.

Some of you may disagree with me and that's ok. We're all entitled to our opinions.

@pb so essentially what the current system is if you don’t badge out? Not sure how vpn usage would be tracked

@mw supposedly 6 hours to be confirmed as a swipe

Is there any confirmation on whether they are tracking actual hours in office?

The OP didn't list another great part of this Communication....no more black out weeks. Christmas, Thanksgiving week are required to get your days in the office. The holiday might as well count as a WFH day.

@a4 It's you can't WFH 2 consecutive days. Consecutive days in office is okay.

@dw - my best guess is Compliance and Regulatory reasons/reporting + Fraud prevention/Monitoring. Less easy to cheat or for accidental errors to not be picked up when on the Bank systems.

May not be the case for every division or role, but there are some where either mistakes happened, someone did something they shouldn't, moving/stealing money, etc. that would've been caught faster on the Bank system.

If it goes on for 2+days, harder to trace and fix.

Not sure if still the case, there also have been Corporate Tax Incentives paid by various states and municipalities for bringing people back into offices to reinvigorate downtowns and support the local and national economies. That's why they are so hot on the Badge Swiping. There is only one vendor now (bought up the competition) for Badges, who sells the aggregated data to Employers and reports same to local/state govts.

OR.... Management are huge Megalomaniacs who enjoy sitting in their Glass Corners surveying their Fiefdoms of Minions across the filthy, germ-and-crud infested Open Layout. #powertripping

Cue the GrEaT pLaCe 2 WoRk propaganda immediately after the announcement

I'm so tempted to upload this new expectation in CoPilot and analyze for:
1)Impact on morale
2) Quite quitting against generations
3) Which bands will exodus the fastest
4) How fast will BofA stock value rise after departures and firings for non compliance
5) CoPilot's ability to handle more tasks

The bank issued mobile device becomes nothing more than the Authenticator app. 5pm, Bank of America doesn’t exist in my life.

They can kiss my a$$ if they think I’m sitting in that absolute dump of a building all day when there isn’t cr-p to do because we can’t win any business due to incompetent leadership who can’t get on the same page with each other. I’m not wasting my life like that. I do what needs to be done for that day, and then I leave. That will not change. Fire my a$$. I don’t care. It’s a BS gig anyway. Inconvenience, sure, but one I know I’ll be much happier with on the other end.

If this is the case, absolutely no additional time from me a minute before 9am EST or a minute past 5pm EST. That will mean all emails will not be read in advance and crucial connects with offshore teams on an already busy morning will be further limited. Also, will not support during weekends at all which Ive never easily gotten comp time for.

This is just becoming cartoony when the bank continues to make record profits quarter over quarter, for years on end.

Have I got this right? We want to be a great place to work but…
You need to be in the office all day.
We don’t care if your commute is doubled or tripled. That’s a you problem.
We don’t care if you have to finish your work at home. You still have log on and answer calls and texts, because (select all that apply)
Your team never filled the positions of the people who left and now you’re doing the work of two (or more) people.
Your boss can't manage your teams workload so while you slave away and put in tons of extra hours* other team members completely slack off.

• You’ll be told during review time you shouldn’t have worked extra hours because others could have helped (left unanswered, which others?) and despite all the extra hours and productivity your performance is still a meets.
  How is that possible? No official answer. Unofficial answer - because the exceeds ratings and salary increases were given to your managers favorities. There are ZERO checks and balances to make sure your managers ratings are accurate and the highest ratings are not just being given to the bootlickers. Managers favorites probably don’t have to follow the same rules for in-office either.
  #notagreatplacetowork.

I do not get it. In my group, we are currently 3/2 Hybrid and the manager has no issues with the arrangement. Working on the private side, I have my own cubical and allowed to have personal items on top of the desk.

Just a B6, the WFH helps out with my commuting expenses. Not eligible for a bonus, my pay is a little over minimum BOA wage. In comparison to new hires, my pay is pathetic for someone who worked over 25 years at BOA.

Now, the next step is to go 4 days in the office with rules to determine what days I cannot take and monitor VPN usage. Is this a stepping stone to working 5 days/week by end of the year? If that is the case, my personal phone will be turned off hours and I do not want to be contacted unless I am physically working in the office. My manager will have to wait until I am in the office during scheduled hours. No response to texts or phone calls. I can be a robot too.

Who is coming up with these ridiculous rules for WFH? It cannot be BM as he probably doesn't care as long he gets his salary of $41M.

@b1 my apology if any scenario is incorrect (analysis by copilot)

1...What I don't understand is why would they care about people working from home two days in a row? What do you think is the reasoning to disallow that?

1. Seems odd that people with assigned offices/desks have to come in four days. I think four days for everyone is what the bank wants but they haven't figured out the seating accommodations yet for the masses. They don't have to worry about the people who already have assigned offices/desks. Once they figure it all out, I think it will be four days for everyone

I know people in HR, but not the specific area that governs WPE. They were told about the changes OP states. But even they don't know if the changes apply only to HR division or all divisions.

This doesn’t sound enterprise wide. What OP is suggesting would be an improvement to my LOBs current policy.

Why did the date get moved back? I was hoping they are coming to their senses.

@OP all true except they just moved the communication date to Friday 3/13 for employees. Managers will get the email on 3/11.

Can we just agree to eliminate the word "Posture" from the English language?

Pretentious as--s.

And yea. they can stick their Posture up their as--s.

@OP+1k what do you mean by assigned office? Are they still counting compliance for 4 out of 6 rolling weeks?

Any idea how they will track full day in office expectation? Also what’s considered a “full day”?

Hope they mandate use of EMS to reserve desk space instead of people just leaving random personal stuff everywhere in an attempt to “claim” a desk. Otherwise, this will get interesting.

Yes. Overheard the tech team on a call this week - working through updating the WPE tool to account for the back to back day tracking with swipes.

@ar I think one of your points has consecutive days wfh.

• Monday in office: Office: Monday, Wednesday, Friday | WFH: Tuesday, Thursday
• Monday in office: Office: Monday, Wednesday, Thursday | WFH: Tuesday, Friday
• Monday in office: Office: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday | WFH: Wednesday, Friday
• Tuesday in office: Office: Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday | WFH: Monday, Thursday
• Tuesday in office: Office: Tuesday, Thursday, Friday | WFH: Monday, Wednesday

Here are the viable 3-day in-office patterns:
Mon – Tue – Thu
Mon – Wed – Thu
Mon – Wed – Fri
Mon – Thu – Fri
Tue – Wed – Fri
Tue – Thu – Fri

Seems that would require everyone in on Mon, which would overcrowd the spaces.

@ag

Probably to start abrasively bootlicking.

As you are the resident SME, please post your training schedule so we can all hone those skills.

What is the WFH posture for all the special people with stupid excuses for not coming into the office?