Great job Verizon, thanks for the memories! They saved the MSS fed side and sh-t everyone else out! Down with the sinking ship! Middle fingers up Dan!
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how many are affected?
@hj AI will not replace network engineering completely. Maybe some of the brain dead button clickers who don’t deserve engineer titles. That being said I can see it reducing the number of engineers needed, not completely replacing them though. Especially for OSP where site visits are required.
Sorry I didnot understand the acronyms ..
But I want to share what is happening in the network engineering domain (GNT).
The people at the top want all engineering work automated, and think AI agents can change parameter configuration for SP, come up with site design (RF), co-related alarms and take software based actions (NA) .... yes GNT is in trouble.
Also FYI, they are heavily hiring NMC, NRB, Fast, SP, RF, Operations engineers in "India" ...
AI will be used as smokes and mirrors .... whereas global contractors will come at 1/3 of the American cost.
Also to all GNT folks out there, when you are teaching AI all the workflows and giving your years of knowledge, then basically you are training your replacement. Engineering folks have been asking for full scale automation ... and once 70% automation is achieved for the project, those roles are not needed in the U.S.
A very brutal truth, unfortunately we cant do anything, just to keep our knowledge to ourselves.
It seems like VZ will be an American / USA company in name onl ydown the road. As appears outsouce most work other then government stuff🤔 Kind of like the IT, customer service and router support group. Customer first 😆 LOL
@h2 To Be Confirmed
@d5 what does TBC mean?
@c7 Exactly, I have first hand experience with these moves. 80%+ of the people will be let go a year later, which is confirmed by their commitment to maintain people's jobs and packages for 12 months.
Formal announcement has now been made by Massimo that US teams moving to HCL and ROW is TBC
@bk this is exactly how they do it. Here is a red flag. When a company plans to outsource they move employees to a clean subsidiary payroll entity. If you get a notice that your payroll entity is changing that could be a clear warning that you will be outsourced in 60-90 days. I know this firsthand.
Classic corporate playbook right here. Wait for the annual Pulse Survey to finish, freeze the "satisfaction" scores, and then release the bad news. Either they knew exactly what they were doing, or they didn't and that's worse.
@a5 well, those were once told by the senior management (in lowercase) they were value-drivers, some of the best cyber security experts and consultants in the world.
@b1 literally what happened in Belgium in another RIF. 80% were fired or let go within 12 months.
LMAO they are in for a bad time, the indian consultancies are notorious for working people to the bone.
@as Oh, you had to Google it... What a monumental achievement for the mankind. Can we now start serving dinner on silver platters, sir?
Easy way to skirt paying layoff severances. Ship em all to another bull sh-t offshore company. Fu-k dan, I hope his next 2 yachts sink and his jersey mafia buries him the desert. Boomers are the bane of all existence at this point.
How many people is affected by this? If this will be same as last time when managed services got transferred to HCL, 90% of original staff will be gone in 2 years.
@a5 People keep posting stuff like this assuming that all 100,000+ employees know about their organization and its acronyms.
I had to Google it. Managed Security Services & Professional Services
HCL Tech is one of the large Indian IT outsourcing firms.
@a5 🤣
No one knows what these acronyms mean
Maybe because HCL are losing provisioning / circuit delivery, then gotta give them something else to do?