Like measles the strategists are back. This time the infection is in RND at the VP level. They make real employees spend days in worthless solution strategy meetings. Their lackies present vision powerpoints while they go play golf with other... — read more 

Some of you may be familiar with Thomas Dinsmore -- he writes about Analytics. SAS is frequently mentioned. His latest series, "A Short History of AutoML", is posted on his Substack page. Its an interesting walk down memory; it should generate an... — read more 

"What is a realistic happy ending for SAS?" -- @1sa+1jzq0haak

What’s happening there? Long time employees are suddenly out sick for extended periods of time due to stress and horrible leadership. Not just one, several.Any insights?

https://www.sas.com/en_us/news/press-releases/2025/july/matt-parson-sas-chief-financial-officer.html

Nice N&O article. May 19th; I had missed it. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article306489106.html What Goodnight’s decision to keep SAS private has meant for its workers and Cary By Brian Gordon Updated May 19, 2025 8:25 AM I’m... — read more 

After my diagnosis last year, I realized I'm basically institutionalized by our benefits package. The premiums are reasonable and they actually cover my treatments, which is more than I can say for most friends' plans. It's depressing knowing I'll... — read more 

Kind of like sales numbers and employee engagement overall. But don't worry folks, Aventure is coming to the rescue. To help with internal transfers and career planning and such.

https://www.cio.com/article/3988330/sas-enters-new-ai-era-with-ipo-on-the-horizon.html Company had to consolidate 14 financial systems, which took several years; that new system went live in January 2025. SAS also had to build other systems... — read more 

So if you hadn't noticed, Salesforce just acquired Informatica for $8 billion. I remember when SAS used to compete with Informatica in the data management and MDM space. Remember EDI Server? Dataflux? They were good products but were left to wither... — read more 

Annual total revenue for SAS is over $3B. What percentage of that is from V9?

Now that we are almost entering the second half of the year, do we think there are more layoffs to come? Only heard of layoffs in Sales and R&D that happened over the past few months. Do we think more will come in other divisions? Has anyone heard... — read more 

Here's a recent LinkedIn post by Bryan Harris talking about Innovate 2025... "We showcased production-ready Intelligent Agents, which are already driving billions of dollars of decisions for some of the largest companies in the world. Our... — read more 

So, yes, we really did lose a full decade. https://duckdb.org/2025/05/19/the-lost-decade-of-small-data.html

@15t+1jv97k35t has described my experience exactly. In the past 20 years, the amount of data in the world grew by a factor of 1,000. During that time, our company shrank. I’ll always believe we had the talent to grab a piece of that market... — read more 

What strategies aew customers adopting concerning their future with SAS with regard to the future sale/IPO Wait and see until after sale/IPO? Phase out usage SAS usage asap? Continue SAS usage with no plans to change? Other strategies?

I thought this comment was worth wider readership. I had argued that Engineers should interact with customers to understand their problems. As a Software Engineer, I learned to do that. @kk+1jv1zhjr8 argued that interacting with customers is the... — read more 

Interested to hear if anyone who's still at SAS or attended Innovate, has any thoughts or comments on the event. Any sense that SAS may be reinventing itself, or did it just confirm the general consensus around here that the ship is sinking and... — read more 

Everything new will be available maybe later this year unless the company is sold or management changes its mind. The story about the engineer who had a great idea 2 years ago and could not get any support until he confronted management and then... — read more 

What is ready-made AI models? Merging two ID-less tables with the help of AI, which is just an AI-powered solution. Like Apple and Microsoft, enhancing user experience with AI. Sounds like the pivot already happened from "read-made AI models" to... — read more 

Why Are American Jobs Disappearing? (Spoiler: It's Not China) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrJzdZxE9Yk Agree or disagree?

Donald Trump wants to oust three members of a national privacy watchdog that is a key part of Europeans’ privacy protections in the United States — spelling trouble for thousands of U.S. companies moving personal data out of... — read more 

https://www.wral.com/business/sas-promotes-gavin-day-coo-may-2025/

Not for you if you are GenX, not for you if you've worked here for years, carrying both older employees who are retired in place and younger employees who were never trained and never held accountable for knowing how to do their jobs. Not for you... — read more 

Did more people take it than you expected, or less? I'm surprised by how many are cutting and running. I don't blame them for doing it but it feels like too little too late. Some people who have been entrenched in leadership roles here are exiting... — read more 

I know we have SAS Fraud but it's more financial/banking /credit card fraud. Wonder why we don't have a full-fledged SAS Cybersecurity product. And why isn't the US taking cyber security more... — read more 

SAS's 2024 Annual Report has been published, here: https://www.sas.com/en_us/company-information/annual-report.html "SAS continues to record more than $3 billion in annual sales... We recorded 24% growth in SAS Viya sales."

This: Palantir is the only vendor that can deliver on that timeline, the letter argued. It is expected to merge together various data sources https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/21/ice_enlists_palantir_to_develop/ is so not true. Access to... — read more 

SAS headcount peaked around 14,500. Several sources report a figure of “over 14,000” as late as 2020. Recent sources agree that headcount is now around 12,000. That would be a loss of around 2,500. Of that total, how many do you believe were laid... — read more 

No comments required, but comments certainly are welcome if you choose to elaborate.. Cast your vote by choosing one of the following: Up vote this post if you believe "yes" Down vote this post if you believe "no" Let the fun begin!

I heard SAS revenue coming from overseas like Europe exceeds revenue coming from US. Is this really true?

People getting paid very little money are always willing to jump to another company for just a little more money. The Altair Analytics Workbench with R, Python and the stolen SAS is now owned by Siemens. Google that boomers. Look familiar? Search... — read more 

Children's Hospital looking for 100 acres near I-40 for their site. Wonder if JG has considered selling a 100 acre slice of Cary Campus with buildings. Existing square footage more than ample for an ever declining headcount. Factor in WFH and one... — read more 

Shouldn't we have gotten info on them? The last email said they would be effective this month

When are the next involuntary layoffs happening?

On the fence. Intended to take it until the market tanked. My investments are in order, so I’m “ok” if I do, but not as confident as I was a month ago.

Can someone with a subscription archive it for the rest of us? https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2025/04/07/sas-pendo-ipo-tariffs-market-turmoil-trump.html?j=39328073&senddate=2025-04-07&empos=p4 https://archive.is/

At least, I don’t see any indication that reducing or eliminating offshoring is the strategy. I’m open to pleasant surprises, but I’m expecting the worst.

JMP is a subsidiary. When JMP became a subsidiary, the JMP part of the company became a separate legal entity, distinct from the parent company. This separation can simplify the sale process of JMP because the subsidiary can be sold without... — read more 

We’ve got way too many managers just sitting around. Let’s be real - some layoffs wouldn’t hurt. I’m 100 percent here for it.