The threads on this site are full of arguments about sales and other company what not. Most devolve into t-t-for-tat arguments, similar to those of children playing cops and robbers. This comment is from a post on Linked In regarding Carl Sagan's... — read more 

I want news, but I'll accept conjecture.

Whoever got butthurt at their comments getting downvoted and wrote the script that auto-votes all posts and comments so the number of likes and dislikes are always even, thanks for nothing. You singlehandedly ruined the SAS page on this site... — read more 

Reasons: Since the Broadcom discussions, every action SAS has taken facilitates an IPO or private sale. Clearly, no acceptable private offer has been made. A private buyer would be interested only in the $3B annual revenue stream. The recent... — read more 

Intentional, planned disruption, along with massive, across the board change has worked so well that it should be tried at a much larger scale.

A synthetic data software co. to boost SAS’s Gen AI portfolio. Does this acquisition push back SAS’s IPO/sale timeline? A sign of a changing strategy to hang in and compete?... — read more 

Go!!!!

After the recent reorganization in R&D, several managerial positions have been eliminated. Are there still any statisticians left at SAS, formerly known as Statistical Analysis System? Are testers now fixing bugs as a developer? It sure looks like... — read more 

I've noticed that someone, or a few someones, are deliberately downvoting and upvoting every comment on every post so that the + and - are equal and every comment shows as 0 activity. even if it's unbalanced for a little while, the elves come back... — read more 

9 people let go today in Sydney & Melbourne.

It’s memory safety that’s a problem. Just look at the number of crashes and hangs reported to Technical Support over the years. The Rust language, already embraced within the company, can fix these problems. Automated translation of the C source... — read more 

As if Viya is not a failure, SAS is doubling down by starting a project called Applied AI and Modeling which is DOA. They want to now sell model as a service to compete against pre- trained open source AI models. This is a tactic by the department... — read more 

Diehards say forever. Some say 3-5 years, some say 5-10 max. Most people I know are in the 3-5 years camp. Lately it feels like another 2 years would be an accomplishment.

https://youtu.be/uOIPmQrrgnQ?si=6h1vMBB1FLWtW5P9 Skip to @6:20 for the lowdown. SAS could awaken to this and make the painful cuts and radical changes necessary to carve new opportunities in niche markets. Not thinking a “Viya facelift” but... — read more 

Can I safely assume this is SAS fraud framework? https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/17/business/ai-fraud-treasury/index.html

@ezr+1v0e56ih “Customers don't want the current products and nothing new is being built anymore” A damning statement. Is it true?

Have been a SAS employee in marketing for a little over 6 years. I have noticed since the pandemic the meetings are way out of control but have gotten even worse since this GCC stuff started. Stop having so many meetings and SAS won't need to lay... — read more 

Layoffs are hot right now -- wonder how many in the division were impacted.

Lots of little signs. Have you seen any?

If you want to participate in one*, get out and vote. (* technically a republic but you get the point)

Simply entanglements for sale? https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2024/09/30/sas-cary-campus-office-space-buildings-sublease.html

Do they still have jobs or is it one of those '30 days to find a new position' deals?

https://stocks.apple.com/AKn-hhU0UT6CDATtlLQ2jyA

Please comment on how realistic this is given that SAS is supposedly in overall decline: https://blogs.sas.com/content/sasdummy/2024/09/13/sas-programming-language/

Look at postings here on thelayoff.com for other, older tech companies such as Dell, HP, Microsoft, and Intel. They look very similar to everything being said here. It’s all due to the en5h1tification of everything due to greed. Consequences come... — read more 

What do you think? Is there is a better chance of SAS offering another VRBP or layoffs more likely? Or maybe they'll just tread water for a while until us old guys get tired of waiting for a package and finally retire? I'm hoping for a VRBP but... — read more 

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sas-sunsetting-mainframe-solutions-embracing-future-viya-skamser-bopdc/?trackingId=k3oHX%2F7DRTW6Bwprr6YemA%3D%3D SAS's latest move to sunset mainframe solutions in favor of SAS Viya on Azure marks a major transition... — read more 

So when are the layoffs coming, and who will be affected? Surely they are coming.

How did Viya end up taking so long to produce and the result was not embraced by the market? Were there no checks and balances along the development path? So many questions. Was Viya produced in a vacuum with no market research? Was market... — read more 

For arguments sake, let's say SAS was valued at $17B in 2021 based on the potential acquisition by Broadcom. If $17B was the baseline in mid-2021, what do you think the current value on the market would be today? Think the value is down 10%, 20%... — read more 

This from Business Insider today...."VMware customers report massive price increases since Broadcom takeover: 'Feels quite a bit like being held for ransom'" That's what happens when a legacy software vendor gets acquired. They squeeze the life out... — read more 

Here we go…

We spend all of our time doing Agile busywork. Product Management sends 100 people to a two day bootcamp on Innovation to blame us for not having any ideas for sellable products. SF programmers are going to be laid off because PM is too busy... — read more 

Countless articles like https://www.hypermatic.com/articles/agile-is-for-losers opine that Agile, implemented in a distorted way, is counter-productive. That’s been my experience. It has greatly slowed progress (5X-10X) all so that management can... — read more 

I have read so much on this forum about who did or did not lead to the decline of SAS. No doubt here were many factors. Let me throw out another one. JMP played a huge role in the decline of SAS. I always figured that the CEO let his EVP start JMP... — read more 

Imagine if SAS had been sold just before Viya had been green lighted...

Is Viya the single biggest reason for SAS's downfall? Agree by casting a thumbs up vote. Disagree by casting a thumbs down vote. Please...no pontification. Just let the numbers tell the story.

Any ETA on this? Thx

I have never seen such a reorg disaster. The number of teams, the number of people attending meetings, the number of people involved in strategies and decision-making have all quadrupled since Q4 '23. Yet somehow with all these new teams, new job... — read more