Topics regarding layoffs at SAS Institute

Topics regarding layoffs at SAS Institute

Viya vs 9.4

Have heard that during 2023 that no 9.4 sales were allowed, except under rare extenuating circumstances. Does this restriction also apply to renewals? And if so, and if the renewing customer does not want Viya, what is the messaging at that... — read more 

PSD Consulting to R&D reorg

A few dozen consultants from PSD are being moved to R&D to turn service solutions into standalone products. Anyone have information on what this means for the consultants who were moved and for the ones staying in PSD? Is this an ease-in to layoffs... — read more 

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| 1910 views | | 5 replies (last December 18, 2023)
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Was SAS Worse?

Many on this site, myself included, feel that we were badly managed at SAS Institute. However, a Web search will show that such complaints are common throughout the software industry. Management of software, and technology in general, requires both... — read more 

Layoffs in EMEA

Hearing massive EMEA layoffs to happen before year’s end. Anyone else hearing this?

Was any space in H or E rented out?

Just curious, as I haven’t been to SAS campus in quite a while. Did SAS end up being able to rent out any space in buildings E or H?

Speculation on JG's Successor?

With JG's 81st approaching next month, anyone care to speculate on SAS' current succession plan? One would think they’d look for a dynamic cloud leader on the outside, but I bet they promote from within. The question is, who is the most likely... — read more 

Would employee ownership make a difference?

This is certainly not the first post that has introduced the topic of employee equity. There is a lot of talk about an IPO or even another company buying SAS. I am not a Finance expert, but isn't there a scenario where employees can own shares... — read more 

Viya potential

With all the talk about Viya... There's no question that the Viya platform brings capabilities to the analytics world that could really differentiatie SAS solutions from other competing offerings. Do we know of any plans to push it more as... — read more 

Let's Get Ready To Stumble!

This is the time of year when leaders and managers quietly fall off the org chart, only to have their separation announced in January. We also have possible layoffs looming. So, tis' the season. What are you hearing/seeing? Don't waste time with... — read more 

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| 2280 views | | 6 replies (last December 11, 2023)
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What has become of CAS and its core dev team?

What has become of CAS, the scalable compute engine slated as the cornerstone for the future of SAS computing in Viya? Where are its original team members now? Are there parallels with the Gopher team? Hopefully answers here will be a bit more... — read more 

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| 1313 views | | 2 replies (last December 7, 2023)
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Why did the Gopher team leave?

It started with their manager, a long-time SAS exec with excellent technical skills, who retired suddenly. Why? Was he at odds with the Big German's successor BH? Did the rest of the team's exodus stem from the same reason, or because he left, or... — read more 

What would you have done differently?

PL/1 -> C, MVA, TK, In-DB, HPA, LASR, CAS/Viya. They weren’t done. in a vacuum but had approval. What. would you have done differently? Where would you have diverged? Not in some abstract, retrospective fashion, but if you were there at the time... — read more 

What do you think the chances are for a VRBP in 2024?

If they will not offer it, HR should somehow get the message out. Then, those of us old farts hanging on in hopes of a package (or fear of retiring right before one is announced) could go ahead and retire and SAS could shed a bunch of costs.

SAS is NOT a great place to work

Like others here, I spent a substantial part of my career at SAS and now have a lot of regret I didn't make a change earlier. It's important to me that other good people don't get su-ked into the vortex and get sp-t out years later wondering what... — read more 

Mistakes were made. So what can be done?

OK, so mistakes were made. That was recognized at the highest level. If you think the company is not on the correct course, what (reasonable and feasible) corrections would you recommend to management?

Is Viya the Achilles Heel of SAS?

Hardly anyone uses Viya. Even the existing customers to whom it was given to gratis to evaluate. Eight years later after inception, there still no clear migration path from V9 to Viya. Call me pessimistic, but that doesn't sound like a wonderful... — read more 

Doom And Gloom

So much for all you end of the month doom and gloomers. Time for the November chicken littles to get the ball rolling again.

Part time positions?

Does SAS still allow for part time work in technical roles like dev, test, tech support, etc? I used to know a few people who worked a few days a week but they are all gone now. I was thinking that as I get older this would be a nice transition to... — read more 

Nearing the end of the month now

where are the layoffs that were expected in oct? Announced tomorrow morning maybe? makes sense to do it before open enrollment begins October 30. anyone have any details?

The Fed and SAS

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm Scroll down to: _Survey Data And Replicate Weight Files_ subheading Whose else thinks SAS is going to be around for a while?

SAS Customer Counts

How many total customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many Viya customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many V9 customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many V9... — read more 

Revenue per employee

Revenue per employee is one of the key metrics that the market looks at when evaluating the relative efficiency of software companies. The numbers don't look too flash for SAS... Microsoft $958k VMWare $604k Adobe $600k Workday $497k ServiceNow... — read more 

Beware the hatchet

Can confirm that October is the month of doom. Was told today I have 30 days to apply for open jobs here, if I do not get one, time for me to hit the road, my job has been eliminated. SAS has too many employees at higher levels of too many job roles... — read more 

SAS Championship

Is the SAS championship attempting to celebrate what the company once was? Has the annual event become little more than a photo-op and a waste of money without meaningful ROI?

Why don't you leave?

If you hate it at SAS so much, why do you stay? This is an honest question. There are plenty of available jobs. I'm sure many of you are capable enough to be able to land something at least as good as what you have now. So why stay somewhere you are... — read more 

What would it take to fix Viya?

This post points out that a LinkedIn search for Viya yields only three job postings in the United States: https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@3jfx+1oW1I0bm What would it take to make Viya succeed? Better architecture? Better products on top of it?... — read more 

cronyism and blatant adultery

cronyism and blatant adultery within the Fraud and Security Intelligence division would make a great read. walter isaacson take note!

What could SAS implement from Elon Musks playbook?

Based on content in Walter Isaacson‘s new biography on Elon, there is a lot SAS executives could learn and act upon. Here are a few that might change things. Respect only the laws of physics., not personal opinions, experiences, etc. In... — read more 

SAS IPO vs. I-540 Completion

There's a story today on WRAL about another stretch of I540 nearing completion. According to the story, the entire I540 project will be complete by 2028. Which comes first - the SAS IPO, or I540 completion?

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| 1680 views | | 5 replies (last October 5, 2023)
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More Layoffs Today

Heard more layoffs took place today, this time in PSD. Heard of an entire team let go.

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