#gold

Tagging it #gold and #oraclegold

As I leave...my thoughts
Leaving Oracle after 17 years, my two cents.

The big shops, financials, SCM, HR, Psoft, will always make money. Usually never have layoffs unless it's from some quirky decision. Always tons of parnters doing that work if you do leave from one of those areas. Financials always needs people. Cloud seems to have failed. Just calling it what it is. AWS has everyone. You can get promoted in these big shops, but it's still oracle and will probably spend 3-5 years in your same position. Unless youre in marketing or HR and well, I will leave it at that.

GBU's..

I worked in one of them for five years and saw some concerning things happen. Tech people..you can grow and be promoted so as long you are a yes man, don't challenge too much and contribute. Growth is truly optional at many places in Oracle. The outside world somewhat sees Oracle techies as people who couldn't get into AWS MSFT GOOG. I would probably agree on this, but still lots of great people. Now, non-tech folks, business, project mgmt, product managers, CS. They don't seem to measure much of your skills or desire to grow or even your work performance. I sadly watched so many leave. Good people who well their mgr had it out for them or the manager was just actually cluless on how to grow people. The scarier thing I saw in the GBUs were managers who becamse such cause they were friends with officers or directors when the company they were in was acquired. I saw people just leapfrog GREAT candidates for so MANY jobs. It was really really sad. People who put their all into a job, then GBUX acquires company ABC and the ABC employees are some how vaulted into mgmt or director positions and the prior folks weren't given any consideration. It was so disheartening. As someone who came from Big Oracle, this type of promotion practice is nearly or maybe illegal. Again, many left. The GBU officers or SVP's I came in contact seem so out there. Most are just niche lifers on some product that no one cares about and I could never understood why they tried to act high and mighty. Saw it across several GBUs. I would say that if you're in the GBU, be careful of who is below you and above you. if one of them dont like you, your days could be numbered. Lately I had a few 20-30 year vets contact me suggesting their pink slip was right around the corner. It hasn't happened, but that is a very bad way to live. Can cause heart attacks. Also for the GBUs there is a good chance that if your product line is canceled, you're going to learn about it on the way out. Take Care.

Pure #gold

Passive Aggressive Performance Review Season
It’s that time again where many of us sit down to review our year only to be hit by surprise with “negative” feedback that came through to us by the way of telephone; or someone is rift about something and has a vendetta. He said, she said and opinions always win over actual facts. It doesn’t matter to even document your items anymore considering the HR policies have changed so that you can get fired for anything at anytime anyways. Why do we bother when our opinions or data to back ourselves up doesn’t matter. Why do we review ourselves as if it’s going to be accounted for. Don’t get me started on the “goals” consistently being moving targets with no actual grasp or valuable impact. Also don’t get me started on how BDP and his reports all like to act “surprised” when any of us little people say anything about unfair conditions. As if they’re actually flabbergasted. Please work on pretending to be shocked cause we’re not buying it. Most of the people leaders just tap dance - act as though they adore us to the public, but work overtime to misunderstand and misdirect us behind the scenes.

If you, like myself, were told you were above or on target only to be blindsided in the end by being bumped down - don’t let it get to you. The current state of the company is mirroring the American railroad infrastructure. We see how that’s turning out. You just keep driving the train the best you can if you have to. If you have the luxury to leave, please do so before the train derailments greatly impact you to a point of no return. Like the ever growing poisonous smoke clouds from the derailments, there’s only more detriment to come as a result of the trash direction and leadership in this company.

These “targets” are largely not a reflection of you or your character. Besides, who cares what any of the personality hires who lied on their resume to become a “people leader” or paid for their award on some company’s list have to say or think anyways. Whatever you do, don’t allow yourself to become part of the cancer culture that has overtaken the company by allowing those same egomaniacal soulless people to negatively impact your emotions or your health. There are too many individual contributors mentally and physically burning out beyond recovery. Considering no one at the top and many in leadership cares, why care to keep pushing yourself into survival states in an environment where it’s impossible to thrive. Prioritize and take care of yourself. Don’t stop tracking your work in extensive spreadsheet or what have you, but take that information and use it to go find something better outside of this company where you’re truly appreciated and not forced to backstab and brownnose to get what you’re worth.

And a final word to BDP and whoever this applies to - LINKEDIN LEARNING IS NOT REAL TRAINING! Fund us trainings with tangible certifications, etc. and MAYBE we’d be more willing to stay on this hamster wheel. Stop being cheap. CareFirst University did far more for us then any of this LinkedIn Learning cr-p ever did. You want us to improve ourselves but think staring at screens listening to people babble only to end up with a useless virtual certificate that doesn’t actually matter anywhere is sufficient. And stop messing with bonuses to hurt the little people for your people leader failures. There are employees who actually rely on them for childcare, etc. But why would you do that when you only care about your pockets and your surroundings am I right? The little people are always disposable in the end. Spare us the calculated reactions with vague passive aggressive commentary in the CEO chat (or under this post since certain people leaders/lackies have anonymous energy to argue in replies but not carry that energy in-person or otherwise) and PR response type executive messages. Take your entitled feelings that you refuse to sit with because they make you uncomfortable and just save it. We don’t care to hear it. We’d rather see actual positive change for us and or just not be berated altogether.

Toodaloo

A great post OP, I'd say it's #gold & #timeless. Very creative...

Let's break it down:

• Pain points: Net-net most of you are roughly wrong sticking it out with all the pain points here.
• Laser Focus: You need to get lazer focused and lean in.
• Lean in: See above:
• TOO: Think outside of the box
• Get the game plan: and get that game plan together,
• Hit the ground running: so you can hit the ground running
• Move the needle: and start moving the needle on the job search.
• Low Hanging Fruit: There's plenty of low hanging fruit out there.
• Smoke and mirrors: It's all smoke and mirrors here so if you want to
• Climb the ladder: climb that ladder,
• Back to the drawing board: get back to the drawing board and
• Get looped in: get looped in.
• Bells and Whistles: Put all the bells and whistles back in that resume,
• Action Items: check off all your action items,
• Window of Opportunity: and take advantage of this window of opportunity.
• Reinvent the wheel: No need to reinvent the wheel,
• Get down to brass tacks: just get down to brass tacks and
• Get it done: GET IT DONE.

Net-net most of you are roughly wrong sticking it out with all the pain points here. You need to get lazer focused and lean in. Think outside of the box and get that game plan together, so you can hit the ground running and start moving the needle on the job search. There's plenty of low hanging fruit out there. It's all smoke and mirrors here so if you want to climb that ladder, get back to the drawing board and get looped in. Put all the bells and whistles back in that resume, check off all your action items, and take advantage of this window of opportunity. No need to reinvent the wheel, just get down to brass tacks and GET IT DONE.

it does not work this way any more - #gold reasoning of the baby boomer generation, worked out for them but they dismantled the concept of loyalty in the 1990s when mass layoffs started. i think #GE was the first one to sc--w tens of thousands of workers, massive layoffs etc. also, everyone had pensions through 1990s and they changed that with #401k plans which made sure the investment banks and wealth management firms (e.g., fidelity) get incredibly wealthy but the worker goes to retire with $90K in the 401K. meanwhile, fideility would pocket a ton of $$$ on that same individual through #highfees, etc.

Does being loyal to the company pay off?
My parents have drilled this into my DNA - be loyal to your company, do the best work possible and things will work out well for you and your career.
What do you think?
Do you try to instill the same values into your own children?

#gold

I often join calls and most who talk do not understand the problems neither can contribute to the solutions, just talk and talk without clarity or direction, always back to square one. When a good idea is presented they fail to recognize it and often fight it. Unfortunately the talent necessary to recognize when an idea is good is the same required to come up with a good idea.

there is a 25 reply #gold thread on wells fargo internal transfers here @OP+18eFpWKz

this was covered a year ago

lol, that's #gold...

reaching out to a layoff forum to ask about a legit #hr #question / tells u something about what's going on

Will there be mandatory COVID-19 Vaccination at Wells Fargo
I am pretty certain companies can require employees to vaccinate.

I have no plans to vaccinate and this may be a problem for me.

I know that if I reach to HR directly I'll get a PC answer that will tell me nothing.

So, is there anyone from HR on this board willing to discuss this in more detail.

sir, knowing how to #elbow will certainly win you a #gold medal...

In your opinion, what skills are the most relevant at Ford today? When I was starting in the late 80s you had to have a broad range of technical skills accompanied with better than average communication skills... I am about to retire in 2021, and I am curious what kind of skills are deemed to be the most relevant skills today...

This post nails it - anyone working excessive OT should consider it:

Step one - take an unplanned PTO day, you’re tired and sick
Step two - take a second unplanned PTO day
Step three - tell your manager you’re having some health issues, don’t lie, be vague
Step four - tell your manager that excessive work hours has contributed to your health problems
Step five - ask for your manager to prioritize your work
Step six - stop working so many hours

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t work as many hours as I could. I don’t care, WF is not my whole life. If some stupid paperwork doesn’t get done, oh well, I am not a doctor with a bleeding patient. We’re not saving lives here.

#wisdom #gold #advice

lol #crucial and #gold

How will we be notified if at risk?
Will my manager reach out or will it be a web letter?

well said: Push yourself always, be #gold – be a #winner.

this is #gold

i'd love to start my own business, it really does not matter what kind of business

If you get RIF'd, what's your fantasy scenario?
What would you love to say or do to stick it to Honeywell? I often dreamed of getting RIFd, then standing up, taking a steaming dump on my manager's keyboard, then pressing down on it with one of those "Outstanding Engineer" dinner plate awards they gave to show how valuable I was.

How about you? What are your dreams?

LOL - this is #gold - the mother of all consipracy theories

• Tracking Productivity at AT&T

I hear that the mgmt is tracking team member productivity and they were surprised productivity increased as a result of team members working from home. Does anyone know how they are tracking productivity?

Here are some facts, I'd be happy to provide supporting detail or sources:

• we do not know how lethal it is, they are seeing 4% in wuhan, and 1% in rest of the china, the rest of the world varies
• it spares kids under 10 almost completely, extremely rarely k–ls folks under 30
• it's moving slower than flu, started in jan but only 90K cases globally
• see bullet above - probably less infectious than flu
• it's not a flu, it's a completely different family of viruses
• only two major symptoms: dry cough and fever - no runny nose/sinus issues reported
• about 20% of the infected population become very ill, only 5% need hospitalization and ventilators
• if you have family members older than 70 you should be really worried and have a plan for helping them separated until this thing is over - love them and help them but have a plan
• EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY hit hard has quickly exhausted medical capacity, ventilators are a must but are very expensive and require an crew to operate - this will happen here if things get out of control and we cannot leave folks to die because we are out of ventilators, that's why it's critical to slow the darn thing down
• lives on surfaces 5 to 15 days (scientists are still arguing about this) we are not sure

My link and #twitter #gold #listing is below:

• Marc Lipsitch - @mlipsitch

Director, Harvard, The Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics (CCDD)
Infectious disease epidemiologist and microbiologist, aspirational barista. mlipsitc@hsph.harvard.edu Director @CCDD_HSPH
https://twitter.com/mlipsitch

• Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell)

Senior Writer, infectious diseases @statnews
https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell

• John Hopkins University Geo Map, Real Time:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

• Strain Mutations:

https://nextstrain.org/ncov?l=unrooted

Saw this on Reddit, thought it was #cool / #gold

I had to lay off my entire staff (and myself) with 8 hours notice.

I was the contract project manager on a government project (office type work). At our periodic review on a Thursday, the government announced they would not be renewing our contract and our last day was Friday (the next day).

I brought everyone into the conference room first thing the next day, let everyone know that we were all out of a job and that today was everyone’s last day. I had everyone email me their resumes, and we went over everyone’s on the conference room projector and updated them over the course of the day. I then printed out “reference” sheets for everyone, and we all spent the remainder of the day writing letters of recommendation for each other. I ordered everyone pizza, and bought everyone a round of drinks at the bar next door. Most folks had jobs by the end of the next week.”

A very good thread. At some point we all age. I was born in 1979 and at some point I felt young and invincible. Time flies, and I am considered 'old' now.

To All Cisco Millennials and Gen-Zs
When you're young and bright eyed. You work really hard, ambitious to climb and are naive of layoffs (unless you're plugged into the great new information you get nowadays)...
As you age to 30 and witness/be a part of it, you immediately see what a WASTE of time it was to work so hard on empty promised (by mgmt) dreams that never materialized.
Bottom line is to look after yourself from Day 1 hire, keep your skills relevant and MOVE every 2-3 years to the next gig. Hopefully you can make it into FANG where your pay will at least DOUBLE.
I remember the days when Cisco had once a year layoffs instead of the quarterly scare of thousands lost. There is no reason to subject yourself to this when the market is so strong! Gravitate your skills to software industry and move away from "dead man walking" hardware (unless you love it and it's Apple, Qualcomm, etc).
God Bless to all who lost jobs today. This will highly likely be a "lemons to lemonade" event where your future, in all aspects, will be a big improvement!

#GOLD

#Gold #Comment indeed!!!

I am very sorry...
I know it may mean nothing but I want to say from the bottom of my heart how sorry I am to everyone who was made redundant.

I am sure that if I ever had the pleasure of interacting with you, it has enhanced the last year of my life in some way and I wish you all the best in the future.

I hope you have the best Christmas possible and I pray the new year is a fresh start from this sh–.

@hzbs, so true. #GOLD #affected

How many realistically affected? Well you have the laid off person’s family, community then the govt. pays unemployment. Then the company pays severance for no productivity from that employee.

Then you have the long lasting affect of valuable experience and good morale being gone. You’ll have good employees with experience looking over their shoulder and looking to get out simply because they’ve witnessed layoffs happening to good, valuable workers.

||Insurance, Health & Wellness||//- Health Insurance //- Dental Insurance //- Flexible Spending Account FSA//- Vision Insurance //- Health Savings Account HAS//- Life Insurance //- Supplemental Life Insurance //- Disability Insurance //- Occupational Accident Insurance//- Health Care On-Site //- Mental Health Care //- Retiree Health & Medical //- Accidental Death & Dismemberment Insurance //||Financial & Retirement||//- Pension Plan//- 401K Plan //- Retirement Plan //- Employee Stock Purchase Plan//- Performance Bonus //- Stock Options//- Equity Incentive Plan//- Supplemental Workers' Compensation//- Charitable Gift Matching //||Family & Parenting||//- Maternity & Paternity Leave //- Work From Home //- Fertility Assistance //- Dependent Care//- Adoption Assistance//- Childcare//- Reduced or Flexible Hours //- Military Leave//- Family Medical Leave //- Unpaid Extended Leave //||Vacation & Time Off||//- Vacation & Paid Time Off //- Sick Days //- Paid Holidays //- Volunteer Time Off//- Sabbatical//- Bereavement Leave //||Perks & Discounts||//- Employee Discount //- Free Lunch or Snacks//- Employee Assistance Program //- Gym Membership//- Commuter Checks & Assistance//- Pet Friendly Workplace//- Mobile Phone Discount //- Company Car//- Company Social Events //- Travel Concierge//- Legal Assistance //||Professional Support||//- Diversity Program //- Job Training //- Professional Development //- Apprenticeship Program//- Tuition Assistance

#benefits #employeebenfits #perks #att #info #gold #summary

Oh, #gold...

Do Massive Layoffs Really Benefit Large Companies?
I think that simply cutting jobs isn't the answer.
To be successful, companies need to change how the business is operated.

True #GOLD post

Tone changing???
Are you noticing, in your store, the tone us changing how management is talking to you or others?
I keep overhearing "it's in your job description".
And the way managers are talking down on people.
I sense that write ups are coming before the cuts next month.

Good thread!

What is the best advice you've received from your mentor or manager which impacted your life?

#top #gold

Thanks, @why, so true. Tagging this as #thelayoff #GOLD post

I think you are missing the whole point of this site. People are welcome to post any form of information they may wish to contribute. It can be rumors, opinions, confidences, or verifiable facts. In this case the OP posted something they "heard" out of HE. You are free to accept, dismiss, or dispute this bit of information, however, the OP is under no obligation to meet any burden of proof requirement!
about 2 hours ago by Anonymous | 3 reactions (+3/-0)

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