I remember when I first started at SAS, I actually believed this was a company where you could put down roots and grow. These days, I’m not so sure - especially when I see how things have changed. It makes me wonder if the younger employees even see... — read more
How long until market conditions accelerate layoffs?
Curious what others think.
Liberate us from outsourcing!
With all the tariffs announced today, we are supposed to be bringing back American manufacturing. Why not also tax/tariff outsourcing of work by American firms? Put a 45% tax on those folks working outside the USA. Bring back tech jobs to the USA! — read more
R&D VP salary
What's your estimate for a SAS R&D VP's salary? The number on Glassdoor is around $300K, which seems low, but I'm not sure.
AI disrupting SaaS
SaaS disrupted legacy software packages such as SAS, now AI is disrupting SaaS. https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbestechcouncil/2025/02/19/how-ai-is-disrupting-the-saas-landscape-and-reshaping-the-future/ TL;DR: fewer knowledge workers are now... — read more
Layoffs in IT yesterday
I only know of one person though heard there were others. Anyone have scoop?
SAS and taxes
Does anyone else that works at SAS find that you end up owing a shitload of federal taxes come tax filing time? It has gotten worse as I've gotten older and make more. I withhold appropriately on w-4 and yet still end owning several (6-10k) every... — read more
CFO Retirement
It would be unprofessional for a CFO to retire during an IPO or sale. The retirement creates buyer uncertainty, so one would either retire before the transaction, or after. The simplest explanation is that the IPO/sale has been delayed, and the CFO... — read more
Regulatory trouble ahead?
Trump’s FCC leader threatens to ki-l mergers over DEI policies In an interview with Bloomberg on Friday, FCC Chairman Brendan Carr openly said “Any businesses that are looking for FCC approval, I would encourage them to get busy ending any... — read more
Voluntary retirement buyout does not equal secerance
Yes the emails really went out today. No the money is not as much as it has been for past buyouts. Stop griping and stop expecting to be paid out for voluntary retirement under a policy that determines payout for severance. Just because they were... — read more
Avature AI
JP wants platform division to catalog their skills in an AI HR system. What could possibly go wrong?
Severance "documentary" series...
I’m starting to think Ben Stiller and Dan Erickson took a deep dive into SAS while creating Severance. Just saying—the phrase "Expressions of Joy" feels like it could be straight out of the show. IYKYK. I bet a lot of people have stumbled across... — read more
Are you afraid of SAS Layoffs ?
Are you afraid of losing your jobs at SAS due to layoffs in 2025 or anytime? Will you be able to handle the job loss? What have you done to prepare for it? Let me hear your stories and thoughts. By the way, good luck to everyone. I don't really... — read more
Expect a major announcement in a month or two
Dollar Tree is buying SAS. SAS has purchased more land near campus which will allow DT to build new offices while using the old ones temporarily. Expect to see some redundant positions eliminated before the end of year. This will be announced by/at... — read more
Expect a major announcement in a month or two
Microsoft is buying SAS. SAS has purchased more land near campus which will allow MS to build new offices while using the old ones temporarily. Expect to see some redundant positions eliminated before the end of year. This will be announced by/at... — read more
Hitching the cart so tightly to Open Source was just stupid
The amount. of work caused by the frequent internal release cadence, the external cadence of third-party open source components, and patches needed for the never ending flow of security issues is just stupid. It’s bad enough that an inordinate... — read more
New hourly reporting
DAE notice the new “scheduled hours” in time reporting is a bit more than 40? I generally work more, but didn’t know the expectation changed.
What's the word on bonuses?
Have not heard a thing from anyone which leafs me to think they will be pretty small. Anyone?
AI Replacing Human Jobs
Are you worried your jobs, especially software development, will be replaced with AI? Will SAS do the same as Meta? Mark Zuckerberg has made a bold statement: in 2025, Meta will extensively utilize artificial intelligence (AI) for coding... — read more
"Which V* products made $$$?”
All we know is that none of them made enough $$$ to stop SAS’s revenue decline. Most folks on this thread blame the underlying Viya/CAS platform. Would the V* products have succeeded on a different platform? disclaimer: saw this in a thread and... — read more
What happened with the V’s?
The Viya infrastructure competes against open source. Even so, it might generate sales by compelling applications built on top of it. I remember when VA was touted as the “Tableau Ki-ler”. But Tableau folks sleep soundly these nights. I remember... — read more
Remember the days of Best Company to work for awards?
The Raleigh News and Observer had an article today 2/12/2025: "These 13 Triangle-based companies are among the best employers in America, Forbes says" SAS is not low on this list. SAS is not even on it. Forbes has other lists of this nature in the... — read more
Any update on layoffs?
We're at the halfway point of Q1. Anyone know anything? Which divisions? Is the Art department safe?
Revenue winners
Which products contribute one billion dollars or more to the 3 billion gross revenue pool?? Guessing V9 is till King. What else makes thie short list?
Will SAS end WFH?
President Trump does not support WFH policies. Will SAS end WFH like other companies? Will you come back to the office full... — read more
A Brief History of Viya — An insider’s POV
Extracted from a thread began on @OP+1jgxdnf0h
Don't be a victum
From an investment standpoint, it's important to recognize that a company’s primary contractual obligation is to compensate you for the hours you work. Beyond that, everything is governed by established HR policies. As an employee, your... — read more
FUD and its effects on employee morale
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt about the future of the company is having visible and palpable effects on morale. It might not be obvious to upper management but the lack of information regarding the IPO/sale is a huge drain on energy and motivation... — read more
If google can do it, why can’t sas?
Google offering ‘voluntary exit https://9to5google.com/2025/01/30/pixel-android-voluntary-exit-employees
Trump offers millions of federal workers eight months of pay to resign
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvqe3le3z4o VRBP please!
Company kickoff - bigger layoffs ahead?
Revenue flat. Seeking “outside help” to cut costs. What does that sound like to you?
What’s up with the Singlestore partnership? Will it save Viya?
Andy Pavlo’s year in review has only the smallest mention of Singlestore: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~pavlo/blog/2025/01/2024-databases-retrospective.html Another funding round and not an IPO for the MemSQL company? Has the partnership with... — read more
I there hope for Viya
Assuming Viya is seen as SAS’ modern infrastructure for delivering cloud-based data, analytics and AI,, can anything be done to strengthen its appeal in the market? Idealistically, this could Yes for reaching as major architectural re-factoring... — read more
Bittersweet farewell to SAS
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/thorkiljohansen_sas-sasreplacement-altair-activity-7282715004183695361-7bH_?utm_medium=ios_app&utm_source=social_share_sheet&utm_campaign=copy_link Responses from BH and others
Steve Jobs explains Viya in 1997
https://youtu.be/XcG6CpxKFnU?si=yzMGQn_u_tSA_8uf @1:55 on
IPO 2025?
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sas_our-executive-team-visited-nasdaq-and-nyse-activity-7282758011624816640-elB5?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios
Why is JMP still part of SAS?
Folks say JMP is profitable . J So far MP has been insulated from layoffs jMP has been a subsidiary for quite awhile. Likely that was done with the intention of it going solo. The biggest argument people make is SAS will sell faster if JMP... — read more
Is this really the end?
Many people keep commenting how the company is failing and get out while you can. Do people really not have any hope for the company? Can it be saved? Or is it really a dying dinosaur?