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Anyone Else Confused by Centene's Messaging

Does anyone else feel like Centene is shifting its narrative internally? The recent Townhall seemed to downplay the Voluntary Separation Program (VSP)—almost like it’s no big deal. Now, we receive an email suggesting we should only proceed if we genuinely want to and offering a chance to retract our acceptance. What’s going on here? I’m really confused. This adds to the uncertainty, especially with the ongoing discussions about impending layoffs and restructuring. It feels incredibly contradictory.


Centene Voluntary Separation Program – Important Context for Planning

I am in senior leadership. We are being told that there will be a 20% reduction in total headcount. This will happen in waves to minimize any single organization from feeling they are targeted. Employees who stay will be told to take on additional responsibilities. This will give a false sense of security, which will lead to other rounds of layoffs.

H-1B visa holders are not receiving the buyout offers. They will be let go in much greater numbers. Their visa is tied to the job, so once they are out they only have 60 days to find new sponsorship or leave the country. Many of them are being pushed out in these reductions.

The job market will be saturated and many companies do not hire in high numbers in Q4. For the sake of your families I highly recommend reducing your output at Centene and going full time into the job search process. There is no such thing as being safe in this. Even if you make it past the firings you’ll be given more work and no promotion. By the time the company starts to normalize, newer employees will be brought in at much higher salaries.


When to accept new job offer?

Based on the language in the VSP offer details, does anyone know if accepting a job offer before your last day with Centene and before you officially sign the VSP agreement will void your eligibility for the VSP and you won't receive your severance payment?

Or should you only officially accept a job offer with another employer after your last day with Centene and after you sign the VSP agreement in September?


VSP Denial

in the slim chance your VSP application is denied, what is your plan? I can’t decide whether to put in my two weeks immediately or wait for the layoff notification.

I’m leaning towards putting in my two weeks.

I don’t believe the business will deny the application to just decide to lay us off two weeks later. I do see the business trying to work us to death for a few more months, then decide they don’t need us and give us the boot then.

I already two the work of 2.5 FTEs, I’m not taking on anything more.


If Your Position Is Not Business Critical...

if your position is not business critical, the business has no reason to reject your VSP application. business critical positions have already been identified.

why did everyone get the VSP? simple... to reduce the risk of discrimination claims.

the only way your VSP application is getting denied is if the elimination of your position will increase risk for the business or if too many people on your team applied. it will not get denied because your PL wants to keep you here (those words came from my PL). if the work can be redistributed to your team, it will be.

someone on my team applied for the VSP and the discussion of how their work is going to be redistributed has already been had. those of us who are staying will have to prepare for things to get a lot worse before they get better.


Great Leaders Lead By Example

Silence should no longer be an option. Since "leadership" is ignoring the call to step down, it’s time to turn up the volume. Let’s keep this conversation front and center until they finally acknowledge the need for a change.

Great Leaders Lead By Example
Therefore, I expect Sarah to be the first to take the new Voluntary Separation Program. But we all know she won’t. She got totally outplayed by the Trump administration and now far too many are going to pay the price for her ineptitude.


Does anyone know

Does anyone know how high up the chain the decision of if your VSP will be accepted or declined?? Is it Director or Higher?? I decided to take the offer and move on from the company. 10+ years and its time for me to walk away. No regrets..yes I will miss all my friends that are staying, but sometimes you just need to walk away. And no matter what you choose to do its the best decision either way. Good luck everyone


Why such a long timeline

Why would Centene want to keep any VSP applicant (approved or denied) until Sept 1. And then the layoffs August 1, would they work to 9/1? That’s a lot for any company to take at one time (not that I care). People leaving (voluntarily) and others laid off (fired), only leaves those staying (those doing the actual work) with extremely low moral. For those that want to leave let them go as soon as they wish. Work out for both parties. Those forced to leave let them coordinate a date with their PL. Give them a break. Don’t make them work to 9/1. Prospective new employers can’t wait that long. Don’t let them miss these opportunities. I know Centene doesn’t care and that is sad, very sad. Karma.


What if..

What if I put in for vsp and got denied because boss felt like saying no. Another round of layoffs come and there’s no enhanced benefit but now I really get laid off. I got sc--wed out of the first one because somebody decided not to approve me. Can’t I fight to get that since I volunteered for it in the first place?


For those familiar with programs like the VSP

Is it standard practice that some "applications" may be denied? As in, you could accept the VSP terms only to be rejected anyway? My manager made our team aware of this possibility without coming right out and saying it. He said "not everyone will get accepted" which I found out.

Obviously Centene stands to benefit from seeing how many people will bite before giving them the green light. They benefit, again, from having a final headcount by 7/2 so that they don't accidentally over-correct. Not that it makes much sense to offer the VSP to so many employees that Centene could end up needing to hire people when all's said and done, but clearly leadership isn't the brightest...

This is the first I've ever heard of one of these programs. I'm trying to gauge whether Centene's being extra shifty with the "your application may not be approved" sh-t, or if that's standard.


Three questions to ask, When to take buyout- please read!

https://truepointwealth.com/viewpoint/three-questions-to-ask-about-your-voluntary-separation-package-offering/

https://www.themuse.com/advice/when-to-take-a-buyout

Sharing so everyone has the resources and information to make the right choice without the cloud of corporate manipulation.