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A Heartwarming Layoff Story

I just returned to work on 5/28 after being out on short term disability for a heart condition. Apparently I missed the mass video firing? I came back to see my supervisor and others in my team chat as "user unknown" Confused, I reached out to get some understanding of what I missed, I was ignored. So I clocked in and began my day. Member choice center btw. About 2 hours in, I received a meeting invite and was informed that my job was eliminated and was to clock out after the meeting. Which actually is fine because this job was soul su-king and I found something better. I do have a question about severance though. How long does it take to get severance and the email with info on that?


First week RTO feedback:

Alright, let's hear it! Comment below on the first week back under the new RTO mandate. People going from 3 to 4 days a week, how bad was it having that extra day and having 3x the amount of people around you all day? HBAs returning to office (myself included), was it as bad as you thought, worse or better? My personal opinion and observations were the following:

  • Commutes: These are only 'tolerable' if you get there before 7 and leave before 3. Traffic is and always will su-k in a post covid world where everyone drives like they are either on me-h or sleeping pills.

  • Collaboration: We have to sit around people we already work with (I work with cool people thank goodness). Zero difference in teamwork, communication etc other than talking over a cube wall instead of in a teams chat. The idea that being in person will "increase collaboration" is one of the biggest lies told to us. In fact, it seems that people are less likely to do any type of extra "collaborating" because everyone is tired, burnt out, and of patience. Another Fail for ELT. (put this L on the stack with the others)

-"Culture": Day one had lots of chatter and "summit energy" from associates seeing others they had not seen in years. This type of "energy" also can be found at Founders Day. Oh wait, PP ki-led that whole event with no explaination. By day 3 people appeared to be less "bubbly" and were more or less just focused on staying in their cubes, plugging the ears with a headset or ear buds, and counting down the hours until it was time to leave. Everyone looks tired and checked out. If EDJ had any brains, 2 days in office seems to be the sweet spot if you were going to have RTO and not make it fail horribly. But, these people are stupid and will never notice this. Also, for the folks that think HBA peeps are lazy because we are (or were) at home, please sit down and take your L. Lazy people in the office are no different than a lazy HBA. In office are actually worse about getting out of doing work because there is nobody watching them. HBAs always felt like they had to go above and beyond to stay off the radar.

  • Productivity: This was the biggest fail of them all. The distractions of having people walking by my cube, the background noise, hearing other calls, and just general in office vibes. This is a horrible, outdated, beyond stupid way to complete non client/branch facing work. It is unbelievable how much less productive I was this week in office VS at home. The time it took to get day to day work done was increased due to having so many distractions. I made more errors this week than I have in years. Stupid errors from simply not being 100% locked in on the work I was doing.

  • Leaders: The only leaders that seem to be enjoying this new RTO are the ones at or above DL. The ones who wear the sport coat/blazer every day. They have the talking points down, the fake persona like a politician, and generally walk around thinking they are Gods gift to this company as they figure out new and creative ways to break everything they touch. They don't even seem like real people and make zero effort to interact or have any personal relationship with the people under them, unless of course they need a new 'work around' created for a system tech failure. They stay in their clique` with the other 'jackets'. They seem almost completely detached from reality and have zero ability to "read the room".

Summary: I knew it would be bad, but this is much worse than I imagined now that I'm seeing it in real time. People that love WFH don't care if someone is in office, teams chat is yellow/away, or someone doesnt reply right away. We simply do not care and only focus on the job we are paid to do. Nothing else matters to us if the work is getting done correctly. The in office junkies (the ones who love RTO) seem to be nothing more than micro managing control freaks. They dont have enough to do and have major insecurities. They love being in the office and therefore everyone needs to be in the office to fill whatever mental void they have. These people are borderline psychopaths with the way they obsess over what their coworkers are doing. It's sick and childish when it comes down to it. The obsession with seeing bodies in the cubes and nothing more has to be one of the biggest fumbles and fails EDJ has ever done (next to layoffs and outsourcing). I'm generally curious at this point as to how much extra $ is wasted on these buildings to keep them functional VS when the company was fully remote for almost 4 years. It's going to be a very long summer.


Return to office impact on employees

Hi Wells Fargo friends,
I am with Edward Jones and here for some info & advice.

As a remote employee (not in St Louis), I feel that my days are numbered because Edward Jones put in place 4 day return to office.

As Wells has had return to office for longer, wondering how they had handled remote employees. Were all remote employees terminated? Did they run a survey to ask who would relocate and terminate those who said no? Or was there a different criteria?

I appreciate any insight you can share. My sense is Edward Jones will copy Wells and other industry peers in how they handle remote employees.


RNDC Announces Significant Workforce Reductions

Republic National Distributing Company is laying off 689 workers in Grand Prairie. This information comes from a WARN Act listing. The company recently sold 11 locations to Reyes Beverage Group. Reyes Beverage Group hired over 5,200 former Republic employees. Republic National plans to lay off 1,903 employees in Texas overall.

Grand Prairie, Texas

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/fort-worth/article316006326.html


ESPN Plans New Layoffs, On-Air Talent at Risk

ESPN is reportedly preparing for another round of layoffs. On-camera talent are said to be at risk this time. ESPN previously laid off about 30 off-camera workers this spring. These reported layoffs follow the company's NFL Network acquisition. Cord-cutting and new expensive rights deals affect ESPN's operation.

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/planning-layoffs-on-air-talent.html


Sick

For whatever reason, they tried to sneak me into COBRA after my layoff. If I hadn't called to fight it I'd have had to may 800 something dollars. But for some messed up reason, they want to still make sure I pay something so I have a 300 something dollar bill (thank you useless offshore rep) that I have to once again fight.

Oh and the reps were all offshored. Man fu-k this place and its current leaders to he-l.


Stop fake laughing with and complimenting ghouls like Beth O'Callahan. You won't be spared

What the he-l is wrong with you kiss-a-s corporate boot-lickers?

Beth doesn't support families, women, disabled people, and those with extenuating circumstances with the RTO requirements that make FTO impossible. And to add insult to injury, the recent layoffs despite record stock prices and revenue...

Have some god-damn self respect for yourselves.


Denise, please do everyone a favor and quit already.

Denise, I hope you're listening and reading the feedback from sites like TheLayoff. It should come as no surprise that BD employees are fed up with the non-sense and your incoherent babbling in the townhalls acting like you understand anything that's going on in the company. Shame on you for perpetuating the dysfunction of the greater IT organization and trying to spin it as "BD excellence". Your recognition means nothing. Please do us all a favor and leave ASAP.

Sincerely,
BD employees and customers.


Elizabethtown Distillery Cuts Staff Amid Spirits Slowdown

Whisk-y House of Kentucky laid off 22 employees. This cut impacts about 30% of its workforce. The Elizabethtown facility now runs at 60% capacity. Slower spirits demand caused this production reduction. The company offers severance, benefits, and job placement assistance.

Elizabethtown, Kentucky

https://www.wdrb.com/news/business/whisk-y-house-of-kentucky-layoffs-impact-employees-at-elizabethtown-facility/article_58587a96-5a30-46e7-b5c9-17bcd982b43b.html


Greenfield College Balances Budget, Three Management Roles Cut

Greenfield Community College balanced its FY27 budget. This effort significantly reduced projected layoffs. Three non-unit management positions were eliminated. No union-represented staff positions were cut. The college also left some vacant positions unfilled.

Greenfield, Massachusetts

https://www.wwlp.com/news/local-news/franklin-county/greenfield-college-balances-budget-minimizes-layoffs/


Why Are Lies Necessary?

Why does management say presence reports aren’t really scrutinized anymore? Bull, if anything they are used even more.
Why do you claim we have flexibility? Bull, we need approval in advance for Caregiver & WFH if we’re sick- that’s babysitting, not flexibility.
We care about employee well-being? Bull, why do you go into hiding every month to create next surplus list. Just cut what you need and let the rest of us exhale.


Layoff talk has changed the whole workplace

I have been through several restructurings before in other companies and here, but this latest situation feels different. Management keeps mentioning budget pressure and possible cuts during meetings, even when the topic has nothing to do with staffing. It has now started to feel less like planning and more like a way to keep people from questioning decisions and keeping us in our lane.


Thank you being the best part of Verizon

If it’s any consolation, “thank you for being the best part of Verizon” was carelessly worn out like “love you’s” to your ex-wife. They got us all with it. They made corporate love to us (because it wasn’t consensual) while they took our innocence, money, and more importantly time. And you sold your dignity for a small check and what amounted to a pizza party. Hey we all get used from time to time. But this time, you got a skill out of it not just he---s.


Geoff got all choked up…

Thought he was gonna cry saying goodbye to his buddy Brett on the earnings call. Clearly he didn’t want to fire him and EM forced his hand. Neuroscience performance was awful (again)… when was the last time they hit plan??? Getting rid of Brett was long overdue— Geoff you are next


Layoffs are destroying the culture

Did you notice that after every layoff the environment becomes a bit more toxic? People start keeping to themselves, become less cooperative, and are more likely to take credit for things they didn't do. It's not even that I blame anybody, I can perfectly understand wanting to protect yourself. I just think it's incredibly sad.


Good employees are being pushed out

They're either being laid off or pressured to quit. I don't know what an advantage of getting rid of the best part of your workforce could be either in the short or the long run. Shouldn't we be making sure they remain here? Isn't that what a good company would be doing?


Fear-based environment

Does the new cohort of managers know that fear-based management is not the only one in existence, and that it certainly isn't the one to result in highest productivity? I swear, the more somebody yells at me, the slower I do my job. Intentionally. These "leaders" need some lessons in people skills.


Silent layoffs

Major layoff rounds don't scare me. Those come and go and by the end of them we know where we stand. It's the constant silent layoffs that are destroying me. They can happen at any moment to any of us. That's the real problem with T. That's what's making me lose sleep.


It’s over!

I need to relocate my family of 4 to hub in 2 months. My spouse has lost her job recently and going through tough time emotionally. Anxiety is taking a very big toll on us and I don’t even know where to start with the move. So much to do to in terms of paperwork and I feel like heading to a psych wardl. I need more time to move but HR won’t agree.
Can anyone share their moving experience?