Considering cancel this meetings for my office day. It’s hard to be in office by 7am and stay until 8pm to take those calls.
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I can only stay in office for 7 hours due to my kids’ school schedule
Work at night is very common for our team.
Will I get a PIP? Or let go?
My family needs the paycheck.
There’s one thing I know for sure
Hard work won’t save any of us from being laid off. So take it easy, at least until this round is over. Or better yet, always. It’s not like being reliable and dedicated has ever really paid off anyway.
How is quiet quitting working out for you?
A bunch of people said a while ago they were no longer giving it their all and have started quiet quitting. I'm curios, how's that working out? How did your manager react, if at all? Have you been put on a PIP or is everything still functioning as usual? This is an honest question. I'd love to do the same thing, but I'm too scared of losing my job.
Grass could be Greener
As an employee of this bank for 10+ years, I had zero interest in looking for a new role at this point in my career but the pettiness here is just so astounding, I just can’t tolerate it anymore. I now have a second interview with a smaller company that treats their employees like humans which is what this company used to be about. I will even have my own desk if hired!!! Can you believe that?? Bottom line is while the grass isn’t always greener and every company has their issues, don’t let complacency stand in the way of perhaps enjoying the remaining years you have.
Learn to say no
If you’re burned out, start saying no and stop feeling guilty about it. Managers here depend on us to keep their jobs alive, not the other way around. Half of them won’t even call you out because they’re terrified of confrontation. Keep saying no long enough, and they’ll finally lay you off with a nice severance attached. Sometimes that’s the only peace you’ll get from this place.
Yet another study WFH is good for everyone
https://search.app/xr1CM
If USAA is wrecking your mental health, leave
Nobody deserves to feel miserable every day. Go find somewhere that treats you like a person, not a robot.
Stop going the extra mile
Learned the hard way that extra effort doesn’t mean extra pay. They’ll just expect it every day after that. Unless it’s compensated or leads somewhere real, it’s just wasted energy. Work your hours, turn off anything work related for the rest of the day, repeat.
Wells Fargo: the only office job that prohibits picking kids up from school
This new 8-hour presence requirement is wrecking morale on my team. This is worse than what we had 20 years ago.
Need to pick your kids up from school? Forbidden unless you badged in at 6:30 AM.
Need to go to a doctor's appointment? Better not come into the office then or you'll lose your 8 hour average.
Want to come in an extra day this week to briefly support a team event? Not unless you want to get put on a PIP and lose your bonus.
Imagine thinking that hybrid "flexibility" is choosing which three days to sit in traffic.
All this, not because it improves performance, not because it helps clients, but because some crusty old executive can’t stand the thought of people being trusted to work like adults.
John Stanley’s Teams Status
Have you ever checked our hard-working leader’s Teams status. Check it right now. It’s 2:30 PM CT in Dallas yet it shows he has been away for 3 hours.
He is the CEO of a Fortune 50 company. I understand he may have business travel, but you can always login to the WiFi at the airport, plane, hotel, or pretty much wherever you are.
Also, if you ever check his status in the evening around 5 or 6, he always shows last seen 30 min ago, 1 hr ago, or 2 hrs ago.
So he takes long breaks during the day. And doesn’t work a minute past 4 PM. Yet myself and my colleagues are hard pushed clocking in 60+ hours to meet our bullsh-t convergence goal.
Guys, this guy only cares about himself. Only the best lifestyle that is possible for himself, nothing but the worse for his employees.
Quite quitting
Tell me how to quiet quit so I am doing it right.
Once You Get Out of There...You Will Feel Liberated
New job, drink coffee when I want....work from home, when I want.. Big salary bump.
Big benefits bump. Big 401k contribution bump. No dysfunctional coworkers or management to deal with. I actually like my job. Treated with respect and dignity, a professional, not a factory worker....... there is a new life out there.......go get yours. Its waiting for you!....
AM backroom
Did any AM Backroom have their block schedules changed? Now we’re on a rotation with only one weekend day off once a month & some split days… is this happening everywhere or just our club?
It's not a badge of honor
Every time someone posts about working insane hours like it’s some badge of honor, I cringe. You’re not impressing anyone. You’re just proving that the company can take advantage of your loyalty without paying more. When will people finally wake up and realize this?
The stress here ruined my weekends
It took getting sick to realize how bad it had gotten. Now all my energy will be focused on finding a way out.
Upper upper management promoting unhealthy work/life balance
It would be nice to say these things without feeling like you’ll be putting a target on your back. But here we are, so I will just state it here and wondering which upper upper management actually reads it?
There are concerns about how you’re framing discussions around work habits. When you mention waking up in the middle of the night thinking about work, or suggest that employees log in after hours for trainings so we can be the first org to finish it, you send the message that overextending ourselves is encouraged. This contributes to a culture that leads to burnout. Please be more intentional about promoting healthy work-life balance and sustainable productivity.
FROM ALL THE MOMS!
You want to know why so many working moms are drowning? Because we live in a world that says “take care of your babies first”… but also, “make sure you’re bringing home a paycheck”. So we get up, clock in, and make sure our kids have somewhere safe to go while we work. But let me tell you something, this world wasn’t built for us. Work is 8-5, but school runs 7:45-2:45. The pediatrician closes at 4. The dentist isn’t open on weekends. Bedtime is at 8, but practice doesn’t end until 7. By the time dinner is made, the house is clean, homework is checked, and a dozen other things no one even notices are done. Then it hits, there was barely anytime with the kids today. So when you ask the mom at work how she’s doing and she says “I’m fine” just know, she’s probably not. She’s exhausted, stretched too thin, and missing the people she’s working so hard for.
SO FU-K YOU & ALL THE MEN THAT THINK WE ARE SKATING BY!!!
We get paid less than you!
We do more than you every single day!
Flextime was the only way we could slightly achieve it all.
Lunch & Learn?
No, Absolutely not. If I have to drag my tired butt into the office for eight hours, I will not be wasting my lunch time learning anything related to Wells Fargo. I will also not let people schedule meetings with me for eight hours straight. No way. I will be blocking time out for me and my mental health.
Relocation is not an option
Who would spend that much money and energy, uproot their entire family, leave jobs, commitments, and social circles, all for a position that could disappear six months later? Seriously? The age of job security and real career growth that once justified relocating feels like a thing of the past. Practically prehistoric.
Dense
I don’t understand how any of you would comply with such an outrageous request.
I am not going to sell my house to move to be closer to an office. I am hours away from any real office.
This job isn’t that important to me. It never will be. And I don’t know why it is to you.
What really keeps you here? I rather take a few thousand pay cut and be happy elsewhere.
I will not be working in an office. I don’t care if my coworkers are or even my superior.
I won’t be doing it and I’ll laugh at anyone who thinks I will.
I would ask yourself why this job is that important to you that you would upheave your routine and life for uhg. They don’t give a f about you or your family, probably don’t pay you enough, and wouldn’t care if you ended up in the hospital tomorrow.
Just think about it.
Extra Income/Side Work
Anyone has a side line of work, a business???
How do you manage to do it?
Is it even possible given the amount of work we have?
Any advice?
So why didn’t the whiny complainer from OPO mention we are getting bonuses?
He complained about his long commute, uprooting his family, a full parking lot, no car…typical Ginger stuff. But he didn’t mention the bonus part. Yes, bonuses of over 100% multiplier for many departments. Oh…we can’t mention good news. Yes, there will be change. It su-ks. Get a grip. There are other places to work. You can just quit. No one is forcing you to work for Walgreens. With no car you should have a nice savings built up.
Ridiculous Work Life Balance article from VC at IBM
Alvind's Pipmunks were trying to say that their featured VC id--t has a work life balance. Oh, really ?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/i-m-the-head-of-vc-at-ibm-my-day-includes-10-miles-with-my-doodles-sign-language-and-meetings-with-startups/ar-AA1MIEq6?ocid=msedgntp&pc=W099&cvid=2ad8df3cd70a4e43aaef3f86740a6bb1&ei=26
*@$# RTO!
Remote work needs no defending. Common sense has to tell you that if you erase 10 hours out of someone's week, you can't expect them to produce the same amount of work as when they didn't have to spend that time commuting. I don't care how many clothes I wash or dishes I do, I'm not spending anything close to 10 hours per week on that. Poor management is the weakness that gets exposed when employees are working remotely. Instead of setting realistic goals, following up on them, and holding people accountable, they want to judge their performance by what they look like they're doing. It's mo--nic, lazy, and they'll unfortunately have to learn the hard way.
Is every retail job like this nowadays?
I joined about a year ago, and I’ve been unhappy ever since. My immediate boss is rude and inconsiderate, the workload is barely manageable, and there’s no work-life balance to speak of. I’ve never felt this exhausted in any of my previous jobs, and those weren’t in retail. I only took this position because there wasn’t much choice at the time, but I honestly don’t know how long I can last.
I love the new market based culture.
I really don’t get all the drama. This whole “market-based culture” thing has honestly been the best setup ever.
I’m up at 6, roll into the office, grab a coffee, and spend the first hour catching up on news and personal emails. Calls run till about noon, then it’s lunch somewhere good — Plano or the Dallas Design District, depending on the vibe.
After that? Head home early, knock out some errands or business stuff, and call it a day.
The trick is simple: do what’s in your job description — nothing more, nothing less. Follow every rule to the letter, badge in, badge out, put in your six hours, and keep it moving.
Worst case, they lay you off — and you get to take the next six months off to find your next move.. Tell me another Fortune 50 gig that easy.
I do not understand all the drama
I go to the office, do my work, and then go home and forget about it until 9am the next day. No one bothers me, pay and bonuses are decent. I don't allow myself to be drawn into drama. I am here for a paycheck, nothing more. A common theme on this forum is you've allowed your lives to become a soap opera. Let go of the drama. AT&T doesn't care what opinion you have about Policy. They ignore employees, so just ignore the distractions they create. Focus on the paycheck. Let it go.
Bay Area Folks - Remote Hiring Back in the Market!
PIP or no PIP, thanks to one of the posts here on Remote hiring, applied for a couple of roles and got immediate callbacks with the hiring manager! Yes salary is less but will do what it takes to get out of the 8 hour solitary confinement - all the best to all! Count your eggs and make choices that align with your values, desires and well being.
Definitely not worth breaking your back for any company
Especially not this one. I’ve been doing the bare minimum for a while now. The only times I’ve actually put in extra effort were to help a teammate in a bind. At least when I get the boot, I won’t have any regrets.
Good lord this thread is pathetic
As a former follett employee I’d like to let anyone else still working there know…. There are much better less stressful jobs. “Oh but uhhhh the vp is d-mb and we didn’t get temps for fall rush and they cut our hours” yeah no duh dummy you work for a stupid company. Unless Follett is the only employer in your area (which is unlikely) just start applying elsewhere. I work for a great employer now with better benefits, hours, pay, work environment. Your life is bigger than dead end college retail.
I feel so genuinely bad for my old market leader, she ran the Cal State East Bay Pioneer store from her college years into her 40s. And talking to her was like talking to a brick wall of follett information. Zero soul, just regurgitated slop about endless retail. My point here is don’t let that happen to you too. Life is more than shelving books and getting screamed at by pi---d off customers who’s AirPods are 4 months late due to a drop shipping issue.
Widespread confusion.
I was “fortunate “to land a position. Whole team has been impacted and I have no clarity on my role nor does my boss. No one can tell me when the move to Houston will be. It says if my planning and life doesn’t matter at all. I can find out that I will have to move in a month with no previous notice. I am supposed to give my all to this company which I do because I have a work ethic, but where is their work ethic?
Union for Bridget's Org
I think we got the votes. There's next to no downside. We can even get some Democrat leaders to back us. The management here has gotten beyond abusive and i wouldn't have thought of every doing this in a million years, but at some point you have to fight back. Auto workers gets some insane wages, we can do much better for ourselves and our families.
No calls till 9am
No calls with India unless a manager is present and taking notes and giving action items based on time frames the union agrees to
No weekend or evening work, unless agreed upon, and high over time wages
No in office unless we have assigned seats, the cubes are X height to block out sound and the equipment is top notch, no more testing 10 cubes because of broken equipment
15 min coffee breaks, 1.5 hour lunch breaks, gyms on site
No in office unless there at least 6 fellow co workers at that location
No interacting with offshore unless their english meets a threshold, we're not English teachers.
salaries must meet guidelines, like keeping up with inflation
no medical plan increases above inflation, and the company needs to cover a higher percentage
10% 401K matching
stock options for all employees
Why is Bridget treating exempt = non exempt
They need to show their hourly tracking records if they're going to demand 8 hours in the office, otherwise how are people to know where they stand. Like how are people going to take 3 hours of calls in the morning in the office with India, some of those are like 6am when people are typically dead asleep. I guess we need to demand the meetings start at 9am for our time zone. I hope they enjoy staying around crazy late for that. Does the board approve of this? Do they know there's a real risk of seriously stressed out people making big fat finger errors making these demands. Also keep in mind most locations have people with no co workers at that location. This is in large part because WF is so undesirable as a employer that they have to look around the whole country to put a team together for X cost. Our leadership seems so out of touch with the line and staff employees,
Work Life Balance
I've been under a lot of stress lately and working long hours. It made me curious about how others define Work Life Balance for themselves. While I can find plenty of definitions online but Im more interested in hearing how my peers and colleagues here at Humana personally think about it.
Same stuff, different decade
If I was new to the workforce, I’d be thrilled to land a job at Humana. And justifiably so.
But I finally had enough of “member-centric,” “right care, right time, right place” and Perfect Service > Perfect Experience > Green Glove drivel. Fully supported it for years but, after hearing the same rah-rah for years, you realize none of it ever really mattered.
I’ve always believed if you don’t like something, get out. Taking ERP was a no-brainer for me. I hope those who chose to stay enjoy as many Humana memories and friends as I did through the years.
imperial sale
If you people don't think they are whittling the company down to make it look amazing on a balance sheet for an eventual sale, you're going to be blindsided when it happens. Don't trust them or what they say. Keep your bills low and your lifestyle in check, you haven't even begun to see the hard times yet.
Rise up on split days off
We need to rise up against split days off and now mandatory overtime. This “We can’t do it without you” and “it’s such an exciting time” is bs. It’s a ton of work and stress. Stop sugar coating and let’s ask for what we deserve, two days of rest in a row!
Off topic question
Does anyone else find hobbies and interests freeing? Almost like an escape from the weight of work? I’ve noticed how important it is to have something that feels like yours outside of all this. What are your favorites — the things that give you a break from the noise?