#employeerelations

How many people got let go yesterday

I’m hearing some people got moved from exempt to non-exempt (ie hourly pay instead of salary) Is this true? I can’t imagine people being happy about it?

Oh, the irony.....

https://www.crn.com/news/running-your-business/2025/crn-women-of-the-year-2025-the-winners?page=14

But from her perspective, that all pales in comparison to her ability to always put people first, elevate rising leaders, empower countless women and leave every organization stronger than she found it.

I fired a bunch of people, I have no heart, no harmony and zero hunger... I just drove a company right off the cliff, so sure, give me a lifetime award! I even dug out my amazing expensive ugly dress that just screams Fuchsia!! I am hoping to get an invite to the Met Gala next year!

Message to HR from Philippine . We applied the last week of November, and then we were given a start date of December 4th. My colleagues were able to start, while I was put on hold because they said they'd already met their maximum cap for the account that YOU endorsed me for, and I PASSED everything and SUBMITTED all the requirements right away. Then suddenly, you'll email me saying I'll be a buffer for the next wave with a start date of December 12th, even though I'll have to take a new final interview. I passed again, and now I'm just waiting for you to send the NEO info.

And now that everything's set, including my requirements, you're going to email me again saying I'll be a buffer again for the next start date, which is December 19th. And then another new final interview. You guys are useless. Your offer is already lowball, and then you keep pushing back the start date. I just want to continue because, somehow, your benefits are good compared to other companies. You should fix it. Your recruitment and HR employees take about 2 days to reply to a single email. If you don't like your job, don't waste the time of those who are applying because your lazy and stupid

The atmosphere at Verizon is now marked by unprecedented hostility and desperation, reflecting the deep impact of organizational change. The coming months will reveal the true nature of workplace relationships under duress.

To those departing, you were part of Verizon’s most successful years. Be grateful for the skills you acquired and view this transition as a funded escape from what will likely be the company’s darkest period. Leverage this moment to build a new, appreciative career or, preferably, establish your own business, which may offer greater long-term stability.

To those of us remaining, Dan Shulman’s business decisions are necessary to stabilize the company, but the full collateral damage is not yet understood. November was the start of sweeping changes that will test the character of your peers.

Remember this fundamental truth: the workplace is an exchange of time and talent for resources. Morale-boosting efforts are irrelevant against the cold reality of corporate restructuring.

Your mandate is self-focus: Secure your finances, deliver maximum value, and prioritize your personal well-being and family. Get your money. Build your empire.

God speed.

QIPL employees, especially in IT, are doing little to no work and taking credit for work they’re obviously not doing and they’re being promoted! How is that justified? There is no accountability for mistakes from QIPL team members and there seems to be bias/discrimination against non-Indian employees in this AR cycle.

I’m a TDP who’s been with AT&T for two years. I’m proud of the work I do, I enjoy my team, and I came into this program excited to grow here. But after two years of watching wave after wave of TDPs walk away, I’m convinced leadership needs to hear this whether they want to or not.

Here’s the reality from inside the program:

Most TDPs enjoy the work. Most enjoy their teams. And most came in valuing the opportunities AT&T could offer.

But the 5 day RTO mandate is the single biggest deal breaker, by a mile.
Not culture. Not pay. Not opportunities.
RTO. Five days. Every week.

The average commute for TDPs is 30–60+ minutes each way, often longer for those assigned to Dallas or Atlanta rotations. That’s 10–15 hours a week spent commuting just to sit on Teams calls we could’ve taken from home, using the same AT&T network we sell to customers for remote productivity.

And us TDPs see what leadership refuses to acknowledge:
Almost every competing employer offers hybrid or remote flexibility with higher pay. Once people finish the program, they leave. Not because they want to, but because staying means burning out.

Culture is not slogans or emails, you can’t speak it into existence. It’s what people feel every day.
And right now, we feel exhausted, unheard, and disillusioned.

That August CEO email laid out “values” that many of us don’t recognize in the company’s actions. The takeaway among TDPs wasn’t alignment, it was the sinking realization that leadership has no intention of returning to hybrid work. Morale tanked after that message and any remaining hope went with it.

If leadership wants to retain talent, real talent, the next generation of engineers, analysts, PMs, and leaders then you need to fix what’s actually broken.

TDPs aren’t leaving because the work is hard.
They’re leaving because the system is broken.

A rigid 5 day RTO policy in 2026, at a telecommunications company that literally sells the ability to work from anywhere, is not just outdated it’s self inflicted brain drain.

You don’t have a recruiting problem.
You have a retention crisis… one that’s absolutely solvable. And if you decide not to change then eventually you'll have no one under 40 working here.

Return to hybrid.
Respect people’s time.
Align actions with the culture you claim to value.

Because here’s the part leadership should really pay attention to:

If you keep the 5 day mandate, you will lose the majority of your young talent.
Not gradually, but all at once.

And I say this as someone who wants to stay. But I, like many others, will be exploring other options next year if nothing changes.

I know this forum may not be the “official” place to say this, but it is the only place where employees feel safe being honest. So I hope someone high enough up reads this and does something before this program and the talent pipeline it feeds collapses under the weight of decisions that never needed to be this rigid.

There is no business case for 5 day RTO.
There is no cultural case.
There is only the cost, and you’re already paying it.

Pretty wild that employees at a company built by Shoe Dogs, people who literally sold shoes out of car trunks and lived the grind, are now running to an anonymous forum to complain. Nike became the top brand because it was built by people who pushed through the hard stuff, not posted about it. There Is No Finish Line, remember? If you can’t bring that energy, handle your issues privately or find a company that matches your speed...

Oh wait, you’re still at Nike because you secretly love the swoosh, the market won’t pay you more, or your job’s easier than you pretend.

Here I'm watching coworkers-folks who've shared laughs, powered through the toughest shifts, and had each other's backs-getting shown the door in these layoffs. But here it is, an ex- Kearl supervisor out here hawking job postings overseas, begging his "connections" abroad to apply. What a total sell-out! Dumping dedicated Canadians for cheaper foreign hires? This is betrayal at its finest.

After four years of consistently exceeding expectations in my reviews, I was terminated “for cause” despite never having been on any kind of warning, performance plan, or investigation myself.

What triggered it was a situation where one of my direct reports had received a “needs improvement” rating. In full alignment with my manager and after consulting two levels of Employee Relations, I issued an informal performance warning. When no improvement occurred after eight weeks, I followed ER’s direction again and issued a formal warning.

Shortly after, that employee went back to ER claiming I was targeting her. Although I had documentation, approvals, and full ER guidance at each step, I was suddenly terminated “for cause.” My manager was blindsided and told me HR made the decision, not him.

Because the company is at-will, HR refused to document the reason in writing. I asked very specifically for the policy provision that I broke, and they said that it had to do with conduct, but they would not give me the exact provision . There had never been any counseling from my manager, no incidents around anything that would have caused this type of result. The “for cause” designation had devastating consequences — I lost all insurance benefits within three days, leaving both myself and my fully disabled child without coverage. It also meant forfeiting my restricted share rights and other earned benefits.

I’ve since learned from credible insiders that the company has increased “for cause” terminations to avoid severance payouts.

For any manager reading this: even when you follow the handbook, document everything, and align every decision with HR, you can still find yourself on the wrong side of a political or cost-driven decision. Protect yourself — document, back up every file externally, and understand the financial implications before trusting HR’s “guidance.”

I’m pushing back with HR. I’m fine taking on the work of the slackers we kicked to the curb, but you’re gonna pay me!

It means there are no more layoffs. Or there are no more employees to layoff.

Hi team,

As we’ve shared, PowerSchool is entering a new chapter focused on simplifying, streamlining, and strengthening how we work. We’ve been transparent about the need for change to drive sustained growth and unlock the value our customers expect.

As a result, we are moving forward with a restructuring of our organization to streamline our management model; one built for clarity, accountability, and speed. This will help us focus on what matters most: delivering for our customers, strengthening our operations, and setting PowerSchool up for long-term success.

Today, our PX and leadership teams are meeting with these impacted individuals. For some, today will be their last day at PowerSchool, while others are being asked to remain in their current roles for a transition period before departing. Furthermore, as part of these personnel changes intended to streamline our operations, we are moving some employees into new teams. This is the only company-wide workforce action planned based on our projected performance going forward.

I want all our employees to be aware that these actions are taking place now and that the notifications will be completed by close of business local time. After we complete the notification process, I will be hosting a global Town Hall at 8AM PT on December 11 to address open questions and share additional details of what’s changing and what’s ahead.

This is a comprehensive effort across all our company operations to eliminate redundancies and unnecessary costs. We looked at consolidating our technology stack, removing underutilized or unused applications, and simplified processes to reduce costs in other areas of the business.

While this yielded significant savings, we’ve had to make the difficult decision to downsize our workforce to eliminate duplicative work and realign our organizational structure with current priorities and performance. This decision was not made lightly. The individuals impacted have contributed to the success of PowerSchool and in general they have all performed well for the company. We wish them the best in the future.

We are supporting every impacted individual through their transition with as much clarity and care as possible. Employees that are separating from the organization will receive severance and additional compensation based on tenure and local regulations. They will also receive continued support from our PX team as well as outplacement services.

This is a difficult time for impacted employees, so we ask for understanding and kindness towards these colleagues. Please take time to support one another and reach out to your manager or the PX team if you have questions or need any support.

Thank you,
Antonio Pietri, CEO

Retired / Surplus AT&T Managers, when did you have to choose Lump vs. annuity at separation? The day of your exit package, or sometime later?

My supervisor didn't know and I can't seem to find this info on HR One Stop.

Thanks!

For the last 6 months, I've seen so many people getting fired and all very senior management too. Like just boss is not fired. 3 people above them got fired. And the whole team is now getting renamed and all that. The new people even don't know the product and capabilities.
Some people were really great leaders and they were like in BNY for 18 years and so.
I don't think they're firing people in lower level but feeling nervous.

What a f ing joke, Drum on a Town Hole says i know what everyone is asking about pay, so to get rid of the question, if applicable to you be paid sometime in March dont know dates speak with jenny ragger. Youll fall of your chair if you listen to the replay.

Wtf doesnt know dates not interested, knows employees have voted up the issue to the top.

Who gives a shiite about the new brand and AI pipedreams when you dont give a f about employees.

This company is now trying to b5ll its way as a AI outfit, good luck..

Anyone else required to do handoff work all the way through the 19th? So much for giving us time to look for another job.

After thinking long on how I might convince any readers that this post is legit and that I wasn’t representing HR I concluded that I can’t - so I’ll just ask.

If you are a technician at F8, are you interested in joining a union (CWA to be specific)?

There are pros and cons that you should absolutely be aware of but the topic has come up several times at GF and its happening in some other key 24/7 firms in the state.

I don’t intend for this thread to become a running list of the cons presented by people who have no dog in the fight (non-technician employees) just seeking input from technicians that would be for or against this. Please do a little research prior to engaging, ensure you understand the whole union picture. Thanks!

Is anyone else out there also a survivor of SA from execs at Robert Half? happened to me twice — 2009 and 2020 — both times by direct bosses. told my current manager and she literally just replied asking for more Jo’s. Forbes top employer.

Lot of people were notified of their new titles this week . What are new titles ?

The start to this townhall really represents how things are in TS ( Global Payments and Trade).

It’s a mess. How many executives does it take to operate a slide deck and Webex? Apparently at least four.

Love how she actually said that our company does so much for employees. Gaslighting knows no bounds.

I hate that now everyone is an “associate” or a “leader”. Show me one manager that’s a “leader”, in my group and I’ll have a heart attack. Classifying everyone as manager and peasant is very blue collar of the firm.

Not sure about others. Nothing says Happy Holidays like a pink slip...nice.

#iworkatdelluntilthestockstartstodip

A good post from “Neo” in the Citrix Systems forum:

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kc3j9256

You work for wealthy people that invested 16 billion dollars to make a substantial profit using whatever playbook is at hand. That's just business.

Clearly and contrary to the vision of the founders of Citrix, they are just interested in low effort approaches because they are efficient money wise. Making everything cheaper and simpler to manage in order to pursue a financial Eye Candy effect, for an eventual sale or a return to the public space, is an example.

There is no interest in keeping strong teams or long term plans for product innovation, its just paint. Layoffs are not personal (and not particular to these guys), they just don't care about keeping you because you are the negative term in their growth/profit equation. So they will minimize you (head count) with all the techniques available in the book (forced % of layoffs, silent firing, colleagues competition for forced rankings, internal divisions, fear, you name it)

So where are you positioned in this game? You are the exploited employee they (or any other company) will squeeze until the product is at visible risk. You will willingly accept recurrent extra loads of work, cause you are scared to loose you livelihood and you have no other choice. Also you are the next person to be laid off (its about when, not if) On the other hand you also have free will, knowledge and skills (don't buy into the AI BS, you are needed), and dignity.

Now, if you know the game, the players, and the rules, you would likely be better off using this platform also to bring ideas on what can be done to make it a bit more fair to you and your colleagues and to minimize irrational expoitation, unethical meassures, and everything else everyone has been posting here. (Never forget this is Corporate America, don't expect miracles)

Complaining, and spreading subjective fear (distict from useful info and heads up) will only work against you as that is the expected behavior.

There are problems, bring ideas to help solve or make them better.
After all, you were all hired for your problem solving skills and intelligence.
Use it!

PD: This post encourages fairness and ethics. Expect pushback, misleading statements, and attacks from some players in the comments section.

All the temp agencies workers will eventually be let go in the next 3 or 4 years........or earlier.

You work for wealthy people that invested 16 billion dollars to make a sustantial profit using whatever playbook is at hand. That's just business.

Clearly and contrary to the vision of the founders of Citrix, they are just interested in low effort approaches because they are efficient money wise. Making everything cheaper and simpler to manage in order to pursue a financial Eye Candy effect, for an eventual sale or a return to the public space, is an example.

There is no interest in keeping strong teams or long term plans for product innovation, its just paint. Layoffs are not personal (and not particular to these guys), they just don't care about keeping you because you are the negative term in their growth/profit equation. So they will minimize you (head count) with all the techniques available in the book (forced % of layoffs, silent firing, colleagues competition for forced rankings, internal divisions, fear, you name it)

So where are you positioned in this game? You are the exploited employee they (or any other company) will squeeze until the product is at visible risk. You will willingly accept recurrent extra loads of work, cause you are scared to loose you livelihood and you have no other choice. Also you are the next person to be laid off (its about when, not if) On the other hand you also have free will, knowledge and skills (don't buy into the AI BS, you are needed), and dignity.

Now, if you know the game, the players, and the rules, you would likely be better off using this platform also to bring ideas on what can be done to make it a bit more fair to you and your colleagues and to minimize irrational expoitation, unethical meassures, and everything else everyone has been posting here. (Never forget this is Corporate America, don't expect miracles)

Complaining, and spreading subjective fear (distict from useful info and heads up) will only work against you as that is the expected behavior.

There are problems, bring ideas to help solve or make them better.
After all, you were all hired for your problem solving skills and intelligence.
Use it!

PD: This post encourages fairness and ethics. Expect pushback, misleading statements, and attacks from some players in the comments section.

Contrary to popular belief, the layoffs did not start with the Sprint Merger, Covid, or change in leadership from John Leger to Mike Sievert. Instead, the demise of T-Mobile and subsequent layoffs started with the exedous of one employee. That employee was so regarded by Legere, Sievert, and the fellow C-Suite, that when DT came to town, they deferred to "them". All of the UC ideas, "them". Home Internet, "them". T-Mobile Tuesdays, "them" - the list is so long, say it with me, "them". That person is long gone - but the shell of "their" company - survives today. It is because of "them",
not Legere, not Sievert, not any of the active leadership, why any of us even have a job still - as without "them", we would have been bought my Marcelo in 2021, not vice-versa. To think we laid this MF off instead of promoting them to CEO....

Many ER Consultants in the Accommodations team were laid off today. Anyone emailing them is getting an auto reply saying, “One of my teammates will be contacting you soon regarding your open accommodations request.” Looks like a big cut hit that group.

How great was that message from HR this week.
Are you RTO ready because expenses are going to change in 2026! So heres a free service to meet with a financial advisor (and tell him you're getting a pay cut bc your employer is forcing you back to the office and you need to figure out how to pay for the extra 600/month of commuting costs, plus meals and new wardrobe)

And they write it like we should be as excited as they are! lol

Has anyone in the October 29 Layoff recieved their lump sum yet? Official last day would be November 29th.

Well kinda ironic I signed my severance package and since then I am having log in issues and can't get past the VPN. Im in a no fault state and with everything going on. Nothing surprises me anymore.

What a joke.

An hour of how great Eliza is. Just come out and tell us that within a few years, we will all be without a job because your precious AI bot will be doing it all.

Hey RV, I think your girl Eliza left a little something on your chin. Might wanna wipe that off

If Fannie Mae is bringing in 2.07 MILLION per employee, per year, why are layoffs necessary? Please educate me because I'm obviously a mo--n.

https://the-cfo.io/2025/12/09/the-hidden-engines-driving-million-dollar-employees/

Anyone who worked with him when he was in lower positions, was he always this heartless and uncaring towards others? Did he grow into it or was he always terrible? Ive only been here a couple years and he's a monster in many ways.

Automotive supplier Avancez is cutting its second shift this month, resulting in the permanent layoffs of 143 workers at its Hazel Park facility. The move was detailed in a notice submitted Nov. 7 by Avancez in compliance with WARN.

https://www.candgnews.com/amp/news/layoffs-hit-automotive-supplier-avancez-9722

I’m one of the corporate engineers who was going to fill in for the strike and was part of the lay offs. Hope you guys still do the strike. They laid off lots of competent engineers that usually fill in for strikes. Make them feel the pain!

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U.S. Xpress laid off employees across the company in response to lower demand for trucking, according to an internal email obtained by the Chattanooga Times Free Press.

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2025/dec/05/us-xpress-enacts-broad-layoffs-amid-reduced-truck/